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7970 vs 480 SLI

Is this thread still going on? Theres nothing much to it really. A heavily overclocked 7970 may not be faster than gtx480sli oc, but its close enough and comes with so many advantages over the sli setup, that the majority would think swapping from a 7970 to gtx480 sli is madness. I am with the majority and think its madness.

Fair enough ! you're entitled to your opinion.

I switched cards because IMO (which would be my opinion) AMD's drivers are about as good as shoving a carrot in your PC and hoping it will make it see better.

Which is fine of course, given that every one is entitled to their opinion.

As for the benefits of the 7970? yup, there are many. However, let's not forget the benefits to running 480s in SLI, especially when it comes to 3d support.

Quite simply 3dvision works with SLI where as no other 3d solution out there does. And given that I now play all of my games in 3d all of the time that becomes of crucial importance.

On the subject of 3d? the 480s absolutely lay slaughter to the 7970. I have benchmark evidence to back that up too but then that wasn't the point of the thread.

All of the accusations and character assessments aside (and you have a gall to dare say I've insulted you Dave. You seem to have a short memory) the thread was simply to put a 7970 against 480 SLI in the same system.

Still, you never know who you may upset when you do something like that.
 
I agree, I wouldn't swap from a 7970 to 2 480's. I'd like to have the option of adding another card and the extra power consumption and heat is not worth the performance increase. 480 sli / 570 sli is definitely faster (and cheaper - I got my 570's for 200 euro a piece) but there is down sides too. I do notice some stuttering but its not bad at all and only noticeable when the fps gets very high. Temps are decent too, 40 percent fan both cards don't exceed 75 at stock settings.
 
You never insulted me, I said the image was insulting. Don't flatter yourself.

Until you test a properly installed 7970 (and assuming you used a carrot to install yours no wonder you had problems) on 3d, then your finding about 480sli giving better 3d performance is bogus.
 
I agree, I wouldn't swap from a 7970 to 2 480's. I'd like to have the option of adding another card and the extra power consumption and heat is not worth the performance increase. 480 sli / 570 sli is definitely faster (and cheaper - I got my 570's for 200 euro a piece) but there is down sides too. I do notice some stuttering but its not bad at all and only noticeable when the fps gets very high. Temps are decent too, 40 percent fan both cards don't exceed 75 at stock settings.

There are down sides to everything. Heat? not an issue. Not unless all of a sudden 86c on the hotter of the two GPUs was a big issue.

Power consumption? thankfully I am in the position not to have to worry about it as I manage to pay my bills quite comfortably.

Noise? smoise. I have four pairs of headphones varying in quality and type if the noise bothered me, which it doesn't. I used to spend all day sat in a room full of Dell Poweredge servers.

But of course the point of this thread wasn't to rubbish any particular product and was as simple as a few benchmarks showing the difference between the two solutions.

Sadly, though, you tend to upset the sensitive types who then feel they must do their utmost to trash the thread and deem it irrelevant.

It's about as relevant as it can be. Same PC, same CPU, same software. Everything absolutely identical across the board.

Even if you were to put both solutions in another PC the results would be the same because it's just the way it is. Absolutely everything put aside (heat noise yawns) GTX 480 SLI are faster than any single GPU card on the market, and I have seen them put up against a 680.
 
You never insulted me, I said the image was insulting. Don't flatter yourself.

Until you test a properly installed 7970 (and assuming you used a carrot to install yours no wonder you had problems) on 3d, then your finding about 480sli giving better 3d performance is bogus.


Here he goes again !

King Dave ! King of how to plug a card into a PCIE slot and install some drivers by double clicking an exe and following the on screen instructions !

WOW ! I envy your l33t.

Seriously, if this is a competition on how to plug in a GPU and install the drivers then I give in.

You are the worthy champion !
 
Suggest using the OcUK settings where tessellation is used, as that's more comparable to results on here.



I really can't understand why you feel the necessity to keep justifying sli 480's, if they're amazing, great, enjoy them, why keep banging on about them ad nauseam?



Couldn't agree more with this ^^

The results on here don't list clock speeds though.

I think the score I posted above with max settings ( 1920x1080, 16af , 8aa, tessellation extreme ) is a good comparison in terms of raw graphics power.

2500k with gtx 570 sli - 56.0fps
2600k with 7970 - 45.1fps
 
EVGA they were 3 weeks old and I swapped them for my 7970.

As for justification? for the benefit of Dave I shall, though I fear it may upset him !

The drivers AMD have released for the 7970 are absolutely insulting. They are absolutely terrible. They couldn't keep my card stable and when the screen went to sleep it woke up, quite frankly, unusable.

I tried numerous revisions, and whilst they fixed certain things they broke others.

The bottom line? AMD lost a customer due to their rubbish software. Doesn't matter how good a card is on paper if it won't work properly.
 
As for justification? for the benefit of Dave I shall, though I fear it may upset him !

The drivers AMD have released for the 7970 are absolutely insulting.

You don't have to justify to me darling, only yourself as you seem to have an inferiority complex wrt your 480's :p

The drivers are fine dude, but something was awry with the rest of your system or your 7970.
 
You don't have to justify to me darling, only yourself as you seem to have an inferiority complex wrt your 480's :p

The drivers are fine dude, but something was awry with the rest of your system or your 7970.

The only one with an inferiority complex here is you.

This is a thread *I* posted, yet you couldn't help yourself.

Oh dear ! some one dared put their new cards up against their old one which just so happened to be a 7970. And it lost, and you don't like that.

One only has to monitor your behaviour on the forum in general to see why. If some one dares say that something else is better along you come spouting your rubbish about you are an expert in installing drivers, and if you have a had experience with AMD's driver then it's down to the person having the issues.

FYI I actually reinstalled Windows trying to sort it out. But nothing sorted it out because the driver was simply broken rubbish.

And it's not the first time I have had issues with ATI/AMD's drivers either. My very first Radeon in 2000 used to lock my computer up and it took them six months to sort it out.

If no one else had suffered the issues I have? you may well be onto something. But sadly you're not that great as a detective, because Locky has the exact same sleep related issues I had on different cards in a different computer.
 
Nobody takes you seriously anymore ALXAndy.

When you had 3GB GTX580/7970 you spent months banging on about the importance of VRAM and basically telling anyone who had 2GB or less that they needed better cards to get the same experience you do... Now, you've suddenly switched to dual 1.5GB cards, VRAM is miraculously no longer an issue and you're basically doing the exact opposite and trolling GTX680/7970 owners because you get slightly higher frame rates.

I've had a GTX480 and the fan was horrendously loud but if you're happy with two of them then good luck to you, there's really no need to constantly try to prove that what you have is the best and belittle everybody elses choice though.
 
If I had constant issues with drivers, it could make me change brand. I don't know if AMD drivers are worse or better than nvidia's however constant problems would seriously wind me up.

Andy has traded his 7970 for 2x480's which he is happy with and noise wise, he has pointed out he has 4 sets of headphones, so noise is not an issue.

If he is happy with his trade then that is good for him :)
 
Nobody takes you seriously anymore ALXAndy.

When you had 3GB GTX580/7970 you spent months banging on about the importance of VRAM and basically telling anyone who had 2GB or less that they needed better cards to get the same experience you do... Now, you've suddenly switched to dual 1.5GB cards, VRAM is miraculously no longer an issue and you're basically doing the exact opposite and trolling GTX680/7970 owners because you get slightly higher frame rates.

I've had a GTX480 and the fan was horrendously loud but if you're happy with two of them then good luck to you, there's really no need to constantly try to prove that what you have is the best and belittle everybody elses choice though.

Excuse me?

vram is just as important as it ever was. The fact I don't care any more says it all. For the hundredth time, when the next console comes along that can do aliasing I am done. I am sick and tired of being promised the world by new hardware, then given two good games a year. Especially when the consoles get fifty good games a year.

As for proving what is the best? that wasn't what I had in mind. It's just some benchmarks. Amazing the response you can get from a few benchmarks really.

I'm not sitting here preaching that people should go out and buy 480s. If you have the cash in your pocket? it's a bad decision to make. 1.5gb vram is right on the safety zone now, let alone a year down the line.

The very fact I had to switch to them at all though says it all, that is how bad I think AMD's drivers are. They are appalling.

I would say it was a bad decision because technically speaking it was. However, at least they work, which is more than I can say about the 7970.

So maybe one bad decision led to another? yes, I would say that is the case.

This thread was really rather simple. Just some benchmarks comparing two different solutions honestly and truthfully. There was no "Oh but you must now buy 480s because I said so and they are faster".

I've had it all put to me. People telling me I am recommending 480s when clearly I am not. The moment the 7850 dropped in price my recommendation for the 480 (which was great value at the time) came to an end.

Then we have had the heat. Oddly though when both ran in Furmark the 5870 is hardly any cooler. Funny that !

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-480,2585-15.html

And then we had the power consumption argument. Yawn. If I cared about power consumption I would game on a Nintendo DS or something. Hilarious how many people have converted to being hippies ! I would bet if you went back through their ownership history of GPUs they have had some power plants or two shoved in their rig !

But that's just it, isn't it? Anything you can cling to when you are desperately trying to argue with some one.

As for not taking me seriously? then kindly you know? don't read my threads and furthermore don't bother to post in them. It's fragrantly obvious my benchmarks were taken seriously just going on the responses we have had.

Spam pics, **** talking, you name it.

As for the purpose of this thread? that's simple. I find it very constructive given that your average pilchard spends his day on here arguing the toss over what is faster out of the 680 and 7970. At least I dare to be different.
 
Thanks for the thread though. I myself found this very useful :)
Furthermore I think people should calm down a little and don't see this as 'o look at my e-peen' or whatever is being said here. He's just trying to show things and get a discussion going :)
 
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