8700 (non k) worth it

[Wommers]

Hi,

Over the past couple of years i have been umming and arring on an upgrade and have mostly had my mind set up on Ryzen. However, a look on fleabay yesterday has some pulled 8700 cpus at £250. I´m thinking with a fairly cheap z390 mobo and 16gb of decent RAM i can do the upgrade for circa £450. This was about the same price as i had figured out for a 2700x mobo and memory.
I am fully aware i will not be able to overclock with the non k varient but i play mostly GPU bound games and i just want to get some more grunt out of my 1080ti. As the chip boosts to 4.6ghz i figure that would be ok for my usage which is 1440p and 4k usually. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I understand the cpu would be used but I'm currently using an old used xeon and that hasn't done me any harm, so i figure its a far better deal than shelling £400 on the 8700k. I also think i could save myself a few quid on memory as the intel chips are not as fussy on memory speed as the Ryzen chips. Thoughts?

 

[mikedigitales]

My 8700 has been serving me well, you rarely see 4.6, I think that's single core boost. With decent cooling it'll sit at 4.3 all cores loaded, or 4.4 if you (or your RAM XMP) up the blk. I use a big air cooler and have no trouble keeping it cool with very little fan noise.

 

[Wucked]

The 8700 is a good CPU, but given the choice I’d take a 2600x or 2700x for the upgrade path when Zen2 arrives. I’m running a 1080ti too with a 4770k and I’m waiting for Zen2. I’m sure I could squeeze more from my GPU with an upgrade now, but I think it’s smart to wait a little while.

 

[Wommers]

Thanks guys, it is probably the wiser choice for the ryzen platform at present. Just hope my old mobo can soldier on till then.

 

[Journey]

Thanks guys, it is probably the wiser choice for the ryzen platform at present. Just hope my old mobo can soldier on till then.

Why are you comparing a 6c/12t CPU to an 8c/16t CPU, very curious. You could grab an R5 2600, a decent B450 board and 16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM for <£350, clock the 2600 to 4.1/4.2GHz depending on the lotto and be within 100MHz of the MCE all core boost of the 8700(non-K).

 

[Wommers]

Why are you comparing a 6c/12t CPU to an 8c/16t CPU, very curious. You could grab an R5 2600, a decent B450 board and 16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM for <£350, clock the 2600 to 4.1/4.2GHz depending on the lotto and be within 100MHz of the MCE all core boost of the 8700(non-K).

Yeah it was just because i was evaulating the possibility of getting an 8700k originally and the 2700x seemed to be the nearest in performance from the ryzen platform, hence the comparison. Moving from a 4c/8t cpu i think i really should be look at 8c/16t minimum and the posts earlier have convinced me to wait for zen 2 and see how the prices fare then. I was just surprised at how much you can potentially save on a non-k part second hand, it certainly has opened my eyes.

And good point in regards overclock on 2600.. It is easy to forgot the ryzen 2000 overclocks compared to first gen