8800gt help please

[GJ02]

hi guys

im thinking very seriously of getting an 8800gt or gts
problem is im unsure if my system will take it
spec is

asrock k8nf4g sata2 board
amd athon xp 64 3200
2gig ddr
currently runng 8600gt

will the 8800gt or gts pop straight in and run with out any major upgrades ? ?

please advise if u an
cheers

 

[ShiWarrior]

if your current GFX card is PCI-e

then yeah, it will be fine

What PSU u got?

 

[GJ02]

im unsure as to the power supply, will that be on it inside the case ?
what would you reccomend power size
yeah it pcie, so it will be a case of 8600out and 8800 in hey presto nice new grafix ?

 

[ShiWarrior]

im unsure as to the power supply, will that be on it inside the case ?
what would you reccomend power size
yeah it pcie, so it will be a case of 8600out and 8800 in hey presto nice new grafix ?

yes

im going from an X1950 PRO to a hefty 8800 GT 512, just a swap ! oh and use driver cleaner to clean the old drivers off before u install the new card to avoid any conflits and slow downs

it will be on the PSU itsself, usually on the top, just take the case of and u should see what the make is, and the rattings

I am hopeing my Akasa 460W will be alright, its ok in my dual-core with X1950..

 

[eyetrip]

Though you CPU will be holding the GPU back some I think. Perhaps hunt around for a 2nd hand dual core X2 CPU? Is it socket 939 or 754?

 

[ShiWarrior]

my setup was th other way around the GFX card was bottlenecked

A64 3000+ @ 2.6 with a X1950 pro

I upgraded to a dual-core, same GFX, it was a bit improvment, but it could do more, but the GFX is bottleing it, in your situation, the CPU will be bottlenecked so consider ugradeing the CPU first

 

[GJ02]

its a 754
can u get dual core 754s?

 

[ShiWarrior]

its a 754
can u get dual core 754s?

dont think u can, but im not 100% sure...

 

[eyetrip]

No, there are no dual 754's.

I think the best you can get is the 3700+, and while you can get them on a certain auction site, it'll be like £50. Just not sure it would be worth it.

You would either be better off getting a HD3850 and OCing you CPU, or perhaps if you can spend some more money, perhaps upgrade a few things in your PC (mobo,CPU,memory,SPU). Not quite as expensive as you might think these days - can get it all for just over £300, whereas you would be spending about £200 jsut on a 8800GT

edit: spelling

 

[Neal]

its a 754
can u get dual core 754s?

I have sat for an hour looking into this one, and i cant find anything to lead me to beleive you can get a 754 dual core cpu... not even a mobile one. Seems to go dual core they had to leave the ageing 754 socket and goto S1, 939, 940

Socket 754 was the original socket for AMD's Athlon 64 desktop processors. Due to the recent introduction of newer socket layouts i.e. Socket 939 and AM2, Socket 754 has become the more "budget-minded" socket for use with AMD Athlon 64 or Sempron processors. In comparison, it differs from Socket 939 in several areas:

support for a single channel memory controller (64-bits wide) with maximum of 3 DIMMs (no dual channel support)
lower HyperTransport speed (800 MHz Bi-Directional, 16 bit data path, up and downstream)
lower effective data bandwidth (9.6 GB/s)
lower motherboard manufacturing costs
Although AMD has promoted Socket 754 as a budget platform on the desktop and encouraged mid and high end users to use Socket 939 (and recently Socket AM2) instead, Socket 754 remained for some time as AMD's high end solution for mobile applications i.e. no Socket 939 Athlon 64 CPUs have ever been marketed as a mobile processor, aside from at least the HP zv6000 series. Recently however, Socket S1 has been released and is slated to supersede Socket 754 in the mobile market through its support for dual core CPUs and DDR2 RAM.

edit : beaten to it lol

Socket S1 is the CPU socket type used by AMD for their Turion 64, Athlon 64 Mobile and later Sempron processors, which debuted with the dual core Turion 64 X2 CPUs on May 17, 2006. Socket S1 has 638 pins, and replaces the existing Socket 754 for laptops. It has been expected that desktop motherboards will appear using Socket S1, much as boards using the Pentium M's Socket 479 are on the market

 

[ShiWarrior]

best thing for u to do is get dual-core

Ive just upgraded mine

bought -

Gigabyte motherboard
Intel E2180 CPU
Arctic Freezer CPU cooler
2gb (2*1Gb)DDR2 PC6400 RAM

all for £130

 

[eyetrip]

Mosley, look up the following:

OcUK 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C5 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Kit £20.99
(£24.66) £20.99
(£24.66)
Antec NSK 4480B Mini Tower Case (Black) - 380W Earth Watts PSU £45.99
(£54.04) £45.99
(£54.04)
Intel Core 2 Duo E2140 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.60GHz (800FSB) - Retail £36.99
(£43.46) £36.99
(£43.46)
Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L Intel P31 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £46.99
(£55.21) £46.99
(£55.21)
PowerColor ATI Radeon HD 3850 Pro 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £87.99
(£103.39) £87.99
(£103.39)

The total is 292.46 including delivery. About £100 more than what you would spend on a 8800GT but would probably make more sense for you. Remember, you will be able to sell your exisitn stuff for a little, even if not much - will still help though.

 

[ShiWarrior]

hes already got a case, and im assuming the PSU is ok :-

EDIT//
Cant seem to get it better than that lately (1680 x 1050)


OcUK ATI Radeon HD 3850 Pro 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (£111.61)
OcUK Value IP35 Pro Intel P35 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (£70.49)
Intel Core 2 Duo E2180 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.00GHz (800FSB) - Retail (£57.56)
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x1GB) (£36.41)

Sub Total : £234.96
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £42.68

Total : £286.59