8K Monitor

There no way those panels will be aimed at gamers any time soon. They are for very specific professional uses. Imagine the graphics power you'd need to run one too for gaming ?! :)
 
Imagine the graphics power you'd need to run one too for gaming ?! :)
Nothing unusual, since 8K is perfectly pixel-dividing (x2, x3, x4, x6) to 2160p, 1440p, 1080p and 720p
8K monitor basically can display *any* previous-gen resolution without blur and as pixel perfect as native monitors did. So you can pick highest resolution for particular game without any loss of quality.
 
Titan XP can barely hold 60fps on 4k atm but who knows what kind of GPU power we'll have in 5years.

As FTL said, 5 years a long roadmap and no one can tell you for certain what's coming out.
 
...8K monitor basically can display *any* previous-gen resolution without blur and as pixel perfect as native monitors did...

Can vs will though... Not all 4k screens do sensible interpolation of 1080p. From what I know, most use bilinear, which results in blurring, when for zero-modulus resolutions they should use nearest-neighbour.
 
Does anyone know if they are going to be bringing 8k monitors out on the gaming market in the next 5 years or sooner ?

A £1200 Titan X when overclocked can't even give you consistent 60fps at 4k

4k is 8.3 million pixels.

8k is 33.1 million pixels!

I'll be amazed if anyone can game at 8k in 5 years time.
 
Can vs will though... Not all 4k screens do sensible interpolation of 1080p. From what I know, most use bilinear, which results in blurring, when for zero-modulus resolutions they should use nearest-neighbour.

agreed. plus if you're talking about running at a lower resolution than 8K for gaming, it kind of defeats the purpose of even wanting 8K for gaming in the first place :)
 
Yeah but just as with 4K now, the moment people get a sniff of 8K they'll want it, despite it not making any real sense (unless there is a very specific non-gaming reason for it, e.g graphic design, productivity). 1440p ultrawide smashes 4K for smoothness and immersion in gaming, and we'll no doubt see many more 21:9 monitors in due course that only improve upon that (faster panels etc.), but the uneducated will still be jumping all over 4K because of the misguided perception that it's 'the best', so the same will be true of 8K when it does become available. Fools and their money will always be easily parted. :rolleyes:
 
i can't see much sensible use for it at current desktop monitor sizes either. when you're talking about larger and large TV sets, it makes more sense, depending on viewing distance, size of screen, eye sight etc. but if you had a 27" monitor for instance, i can't see any reason you'd need 8K instead of 4K apart from perhaps very specific high end uses like medical imaging etc.

this article might be of interest on the topic too: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/visual_acuity.htm

"Visual Acuity - The Sense and Non-Sense of Ultra High Definition Displays"
 
Can vs will though... Not all 4k screens do sensible interpolation of 1080p. From what I know, most use bilinear, which results in blurring, when for zero-modulus resolutions they should use nearest-neighbour.
Not sure about "most" or not - only have hands-on Acer XB321HK, and it does proper (sharp) pixel doubling in 1080p. Probably any other monitor with G-Sync scaler would be the same.

plus if you're talking about running at a lower resolution than 8K for gaming, it kind of defeats the purpose of even wanting 8K for gaming in the first place
8K monitors with gaming features (e.g. fast refresh/adaptive sync) still make sense because:
- many games (e.g. 2.5D) quite happily run at very high resolutions (and look absolutely amazing)
- ones which didn't can still be upscaled perfectly
- even if they don't run at high res now, they will in the future - and you won't have to upgrade monitor again
- upscaled resolutions can use higher refresh rates
- desktop will have very high res and dpi, which makes quite a difference (if you ever seen very high DPI desktop you know what I mean). Lot of people want monitor which is both for work & play

But obviously display should be of proper (large) size so visual acuity limit will not make extra pixels go to waste.
 
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A £1200 Titan X when overclocked can't even give you consistent 60fps at 4k

4k is 8.3 million pixels.

8k is 33.1 million pixels!

I'll be amazed if anyone can game at 8k in 5 years time.

A couple of Pascal Titans running SOM maxed out @8k (2160p with 200% scaling)

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My old Maxwell Titan Xs do even better as I can use all 4.
 
"Run" with an average 37-38fps. Not exactly a consistent 60fps which is the point VincentHanna was making. A heck of a long way to go.
 
"Run" with an average 37-38fps. Not exactly a consistent 60fps which is the point VincentHanna was making. A heck of a long way to go.

I was using just 2 cards, if NV supported 4 way on Pascal I would be over 60fps.

The hardware does exist to run 8K.
 
Yes, but unfortunately interest would be extremely limited if it requires 4 extremely expensive GPUs to run! Of course GPU horsepower will increase further and that will filter down eventually, but we're still not even at the point where '4K' UHD can be comfortably run by most gaming systems. There are many users who are waiting for single GPU solutions that will do a good job in that respect as well.
 
Not sure about "most" or not - only have hands-on Acer XB321HK, and it does proper (sharp) pixel doubling in 1080p. Probably any other monitor with G-Sync scaler would be the same.

That's actually interesting to know, cheers. Puts it up my list of potential screens :)

Not sure whether I'd want to gamble it's the same for all g-syncs though, the internet does not seem to have documented how different manufacturers handle interpolation (if the majority of folks even know such a thing exists...) :/
 
8k would be a little pointless, even tv makers say there's little momentum because you'd be looking at 80"+ before you noticed much difference from 4k. Probably why they've moved to HDR for now as the next big thing.
 
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8k would be a little pointless, even tv makers say there's little momentum because you'd be looking at 80"+ before you noticed much difference from 4k. Probably why they've moved to HDR for now as the next big thing.

TV at a distance and Gaming up close to the monitor are very different.

Even modern games totally maxed out at 2160p can still look poor and benefit from resolution scaling to 8k or better still an 8k monitor if they were available.
 
1440p ultrawide smashes 4K for smoothness and immersion in gaming, and we'll no doubt see many more 21:9 monitors in due course that only improve upon that (faster panels etc.), but the uneducated will still be jumping all over 4K because of the misguided perception that it's 'the best' :rolleyes:

Its more down to personal preference rather than one been wrong and one right, people just need to go to a shop and see what looks best for them rather than going on other peoples often biased opinions.
 
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