9/11 - Controlled demolition?

Radiation · 9 Sep 2006 at 20:41

Al Vallario said:
I find certain things suspicious, such as the failure of the US government to identify the threat. Nothing based on mis-information you would find on conspiracy theorist websites or videos, though.

I do, however, believe that the government had nothing to do with the actual collapse of the World Trade Center, or damage to the Pentagon.

Im sure the majority of people in government are good honest people but looking at the world today i certainly wouldn't discount the possibility 9/11 and many agendas are being perpetrated by a powerful organisation, this means more than terrorists in a cave, whether they're directly in control of high level government or not you can't discount the possibility that it was a major operation for the controlled demolition of those buildings.

SexyGreyFox · 9 Sep 2006 at 20:57

Radiation said:
Just wondering but do you seriously not find anything suspicious about 9/11?

Absolutely nothing.
It just showed up the incompetence of the American Govt when they had been repeatedly warned.
However, unless the 'warners' can actually identify what was going to happen then its like looking for a needle in a haystack.

neocon · 9 Sep 2006 at 21:28

You haven't changed my mind and I doubt you've changed the minds of many other people.

Conspiracy theorists - we're here, get used to it

Al Vallario · 9 Sep 2006 at 21:34

neocon said:
You haven't changed my mind and I doubt you've changed the minds of many other people.

Conspiracy theorists - we're here, get used to it

growse said:
Conspiracy Theorists - A true social phenomenon

Conspiracy theorists usually feel a need to differentiate themselves from the mainstream by holding opinions that contradicts "official" explanations, mostly because they think it's fashionable to be seen to be "not a sheep". Also could be taking a gamble on the prospect that when the "truth" is finally revealed, they can look smarter compared to the masses.

Commonly seen to be endlessly watching or making "documentaries" and absorbing, sheep-like, every detail that could possibly provide an explanation as to why the "official" explanation is wrong. Most arguments hinge either around flawed science, or the reasoning that because something isn't fully explained to their satisfaction, everything else is lies.

Sadly, it's never going to stop being "fashionable" for these people to feel like their on the inside of a big secret. The shallowness of conspiracy theorists is demonstrated as they question everything simply in order to gain preceived status within their audience as someone who "thinks differently", "is his(her) own person", "doesn't take crap from governments". They believe such qualities allows them to get laid sooner, and with more people.

Unfortunately, in most cases, the glaring lack of logic and reason only makes them appear to be closed-minded geeks trying to cling onto some sort of individualism to make themselves seem important. It's sad, but it's true.

You're not trying to find the truth, you're not doing it for the relatives of those killed. You're just wasting your own time subscribing to crackpot theories which you know, deep down, are untrue. What if I told you it was "cool" to follow the official story?

neocon · 9 Sep 2006 at 21:41

People are different:
religions
sexuality
politics

Some people have overactive imaginations.

There are many more stupid conspiracy theories compared to the 911 ones. Exploding towers is a bit crazy. Romote controlled planes more likely.

I don't see this one ever going away, even if the "truth" does come out!

SexyGreyFox · 10 Sep 2006 at 10:39

Theres just been a conspiracy theorist on the Heaven & Earth Show (I was flicking and saw some footage and stayed tuned). This bloke was reeling out the explosions in the towers tapes while experts in the studio told him what was happening. Anyway, the upshot is that a reporter from the Mail On Sunday is going to have him in the office and look at all his 'evidence'.
What the journo said was that he 100% believed that those who admitted to doing it (Al Q) did in fact do it but the Western Governments welcomed it because they can now go forward with ID cards and Big Brother type projects.

sven256 · 10 Sep 2006 at 11:35

Radiation said:
Im sure the majority of people in government are good honest people but looking at the world today i certainly wouldn't discount the possibility 9/11 and many agendas are being perpetrated by a powerful organisation, this means more than terrorists in a cave, whether they're directly in control of high level government or not you can't discount the possibility that it was a major operation for the controlled demolition of those buildings.

Please read my earlier post.
it should explain what the"explosions" are.

pcknight · 10 Sep 2006 at 12:06

It is obvious that the reason the towers collapsed was because of the impact of the planes and the burning fuel. Other theories are rubbish. There is always someone trying to make something out of nothing!! Terrorism was the only cause. Forget all these stupid USA theories. Typical of what comes out of the USA.

The_Dark_Side · 10 Sep 2006 at 12:08

pcknight said:
Typical of what comes out of the USA.

i hate to say it, but these days i don't think we're much better.

gurusan · 10 Sep 2006 at 12:26

pcknight said:
Typical of what comes out of the USA.

It's human nature to love conspiracies. The US definitely isn't unique in that respect.

norm · 10 Sep 2006 at 20:30

I recall hearing inspection of debris from the two towers was forbidden to most and all debris has now either being shredded or melted down.

Meaning that if it had been some sort of controlled demolition there would be tell-tale signs to some.

gurusan · 10 Sep 2006 at 20:31

norm said:
I recall hearing inspection of debris from the two towers was forbidden to most and all debris has now either being shredded or melted down.

Meaning that if it had been some sort of controlled demolition there would be tell-tale signs to some.

Nonsense. I touched a beam from the twin towers at a memorial at the California state fair....also I had a classmate who lost a cousin in one of the planes.

This conspiracy stuff is complete BS

Nicola · 12 Sep 2006 at 04:32

gurusan said:
Nonsense. I touched a beam from the twin towers at a memorial at the California state fair....also I had a classmate who lost a cousin in one of the planes.

they kept some for that pourpres but the rest was shipped to china, And im sry to hear about your classmates cousin but dont u think the family would want or deserve the truth instead of all this Nonsense from the us goverment

This conspiracy stuff is complete BS

conspiracy ppl what ever you want to call them are more intuned with reallity than most ppl, (and im not talking about alex jones or david icke) if you no your stuff you will no that they are twister.
Most of the big conspiracys are true the problem is getting the goverments to admit to them which is never gona happen

If u took the time to study the world main streem media you will quickly find out that a huge % is controled by the goverment . And the lies and manipulation is huge
most ppls reality are based on this lies and manipulation

quote bill hicks(kinda)
go back to sleep america, go back to sleep, your goverment has explained it to you, go back to sleep your goverment will take care of you, go back to sleep, look heres american gladiaters infact heres 500 channels , go back to sleep

anyways untill u no all there is to no about 911 then your opinion is just that your opinion dosent mean its fact

btw im not stating any thing im just posting bits and bobs for ppl to think about, take a look at http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html site, Near the bottom there are pictures of bird damage to planes, Also something that stuck out was the two pics of the plane's entry points of wtc1 wtc2 the angle is almost identical.

dose anybody no the manufacturer of that wallet the was found ,that tied the hijackers to 911 i would like to purches one for a friends birthday present

oh nearly forgot but did u no that the empire state building was hit by a B-25 bomber back in 1945

qoute from one of the sites

when their offices were suddenly engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact as the building shook. A publicist working in the offices was propelled out of a window from the explosion, and ten others were caught in the inferno.so basicly lots of fire there then

empire state building
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=179
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1945/jul45/28jul45.htm

pics of bird damge
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html

911 must watch vids
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7677940272773278216&q=911

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722&q=911

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4567348886661640343&q=anthony+j

yes i know my grammar sucks but dont worry about it

-|ScottFree|- · 12 Sep 2006 at 05:54

Unfortunately Nicola, your post will not be taken seriously as you have used text speech & have far too many spelling mistakes. If you want people to take your thoughts validly, please take that into account.

I do not disagree with an awful lot of what you are suggesting; only others here will attempt to discredit your argument on the basis that you have not expressed your thoughts articulately using correct grammar.

JRS · 12 Sep 2006 at 06:09

Nicola said:
conspiracy ppl what ever you want to call them are more intuned with reallity than most ppl

Wow.....thats a pretty bold statement. So apparently I'm out of tune with reality because I don't believe in the very odd conspiracy theories that get trotted out time and time again?

Right-o.

-|ScottFree|- said:
only others here will attempt to discredit your argument on the basis that you have not expressed your thoughts articulately using correct grammar.

Uh huh. I'll discredit her argument based on the fact that she made that huge assumption that I quoted which is a) entirely wrong and b) very silly indeed. I don't think there is any need to stoop to "grammar policing" when the argument starts off with something as daft as "I'm more in tune with reality than you are!" - especially as there ain't a whole lot of proof for the conspiracy theories to hang on.....

willd58 · 12 Sep 2006 at 06:47

Radiation said:
you can't discount the possibility that it was a major operation for the controlled demolition of those buildings.

Yes you can, you look at the clear facts, you not be a moron, you look at the apposing evidence and how stupid it is, and how stupid it makes people look who buy into it.

Anyone who believes in conspiracy theories has clearly never tried to keep a big secret with more than 3 people.

SexyGreyFox · 12 Sep 2006 at 07:04

Nicola you're so in tune with reality.

I also believe that the American Govt paid 4 plane crews to give up their lives for the war effort. I also believe in the conspiracy that all the passengers were manic depressives and their families were also paid a lot of money for their suicides. If you do a little more research all the people in the Twin Towers were interviewed weeks before and all the people left in the buildings were also on the payroll to die. Lets face it - Americans are stupid and will do anything for money.
I don't know why Al Qaeda keep spoiling it though by saying they did it - why do they do this Nicola when they obviously didn't? I also don't understand that if America wanted to go to war why didn't they plant WMD's? - it would have been easier but explosions are better. The one conspiracy I can't take on board is that in front of 1000's of people at 9:28am the Govt would fly a missile into the Pentagon, I still believe they were all suicide victims paid by the Govt on a plane.

Its so nice to see someone post who is so in-tune to the world.

Zip · 12 Sep 2006 at 07:11

Nicola said:
they kept some for that pourpres but the rest was shipped to china, And im sry to hear about your classmates cousin but dont u think the family would want or deserve the truth instead of all this Nonsense from the us goverment

conspiracy ppl what ever you want to call them are more intuned with reallity than most ppl, (and im not talking about alex jones or david icke) if you no your stuff you will no that they are twister.
Most of the big conspiracys are true the problem is getting the goverments to admit to them which is never gona happen

If u took the time to study the world main streem media you will quickly find out that a huge % is controled by the goverment . And the lies and manipulation is huge
most ppls reality are based on this lies and manipulation

quote bill hicks(kinda)
go back to sleep america, go back to sleep, your goverment has explained it to you, go back to sleep your goverment will take care of you, go back to sleep, look heres american gladiaters infact heres 500 channels , go back to sleep

anyways untill u no all there is to no about 911 then your opinion is just that your opinion dosent mean its fact

btw im not stating any thing im just posting bits and bobs for ppl to think about, take a look at http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html site, Near the bottom there are pictures of bird damage to planes, Also something that stuck out was the two pics of the plane's entry points of wtc1 wtc2 the angle is almost identical.

dose anybody no the manufacturer of that wallet the was found ,that tied the hijackers to 911 i would like to purches one for a friends birthday present

oh nearly forgot but did u no that the empire state building was hit by a B-25 bomber back in 1945

qoute from one of the sites

when their offices were suddenly engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact as the building shook. A publicist working in the offices was propelled out of a window from the explosion, and ten others were caught in the inferno.so basicly lots of fire there then

empire state building
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=179
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1945/jul45/28jul45.htm

pics of bird damge
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html

911 must watch vids
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7677940272773278216&q=911

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722&q=911

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4567348886661640343&q=anthony+j

yes i know my grammar sucks but dont worry about it

Go put your head over a toilet, You're talking ****

willd58 · 12 Sep 2006 at 07:23

Nicola said:
conspiracy ppl what ever you want to call them are more intuned with reallity than most ppl

Thats why there all sad loners with no lives who sit in there mothers basement at the age of 40 is it?

aardvark · 12 Sep 2006 at 09:49

willd58 said:
Thats why there all sad loners with no lives who sit in there mothers basement at the age of 40 is it?

exactly - name me one conspiracy theorist that has actually acheived anything worthwhile in life - seriously, do any of the people here who believe in this crap have high level, intelligent, worthwhile jobs?