9/11 - Controlled demolition?

growse said:
Seriously, we've been over this. Read the thread. People are really really annoyed because you've not read the thread, and we don't want to go over the points again in language a 4-year-old can understand.

Trust me when I tell you that you're clueless.
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hey my reading is fine my spelling is not .i spend most of my time reading


Trust me when I tell you that you're clueless.

actuallly would u like to see a list of all the books i own i think you will be surprised
 
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Nicola said:
ive tried to get ppl thinking ,hasnt worked lets try this then what evidence do we have that it was hijackers.
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1) Video evidence at the airports showing the accused hijackers checking in.
2) Phone calls from on board phone and mobile phones (although there is a gray area but based on first hand experience of the people in this thread is possible) stating that the plane was hijacked although no way to prove conclusively that it was the people now accused of doing it.
3)Passports found in the wreckage, again doesn't really prove they hijacked the plane.

sure theres more but I believe that the US gov discovered links between these people and Bin Ladens group. However based on what i've read about 6 of the people that the US gov claimed hijacked the planes and died have been proven to be still alive today.
 
Nicola said:
hey my reading is fine my spelling is not .i spend most of my time reading


Trust me when I tell you that you're clueless.

actuallly would u like to see a list of all the books i own i think you will be surprised
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I would love to see a list of all the books that you own. Spelt correctly.
 
Gman said:
However based on what i've read about 6 of the people that the US gov claimed hijacked the planes and died have been proven to be still alive today.
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Several reports, from shortly after the attacks, said that some of the men named as hijackers on 9/11 were alive, and had been victims of identity theft. These thefts were said to have occurred as long ago as 1995.
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Surprisingly enough, people committed to crashing planes into buildings aren't actually above stealing identities :)

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From Sept '01 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
 
JRS said:
Surprisingly enough, people committed to crashing planes into buildings aren't actually above stealing identities :)
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yep true, question is why would someone who believed that what he was doing was the will of god mask his identity, if they truly believed they were doing it for god then they would be proud of what they where doing and wouldn't hide there identiy.
 
Nicola said:
im sorry i have problems with these goverment run sites but i will read it
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OCUK is Government run now? Spie will have something to say about that :p

And would a Government run site have an Ad of George bush jumping around as a chicken on it?
 
To be honest the majority of the people in this thread who are claiming there is a conspiracy have just ended up sounding stupid.

Anyone who preaches information they have heard from conspiracy sites or videos is simply not fully informed. You need to present documented evidence and there are just too many unknown factors that make the physical evidence of the the towers collapse totally unreliable.

Your just going round and round, are we any closer to a conclusion after some 20 pages in this thread...NO. We will never know if any of the theorys are true unless documents turn up or someone speaks out, the crime scene is gone and your wasting your time....forget about it...

Why do I never see discussions on the smoking gun issues of 9/11:

Pakistani ISI money transfer to the terrorists
Operation Able Danger
Vigilant Guardian and other Wargame Exercises
August 6th PDB briefing document
Warnings from 14 seperate countries of attack
The Randy Glass story
Sibil Edmonds the FBI translator's story
Etc etc.

These things prove real inconsistancy in the official story, these things are documented.
 
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Zip said:
OCUK is Government run now? Spie will have something to say about that :p

And would a Government run site have an Ad of George bush jumping around as a chicken on it?
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yes to give the impression it is not run by the goverment

as for ocuk i have no problem with it infact for hardware info its one of the best
 
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MookJong said:
To be honest the majority of the people in this thread who are claiming there is a conspiracy have just ended up sounding stupid.

Anyone who preaches information they have heard from conspiracy sites or videos is simply not fully informed. You need to present documented evidence and there are just too many unknown factors that make the physical evidence of the the towers collapse totally unreliable.

Your just going round and round, are we any closer to a conclusion after some 20 pages in this thread...NO. We will never know if any of the theorys are true unless documents turn up or someone speaks out, the crime scene is gone and your wasting your time....forget about it...

Why do I never see discussions on the smoking gun issues of 9/11:

Pakistani ISI money transfer to the terrorists
Operation Able Danger
Vigilant Guardian and other Wargame Exercises
August 6th PDB briefing document
Warnings from 14 seperate countries of attack
The Randy Glass story
Sibil Edmonds the FBI translator's story
Etc etc.

These things prove real inconsistancy in the official story, these things are documented.
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i have spent the last 5year studying this amongst other things i like to stay in the middle and look at both sides of the argument before i made my mind up ,and to understand 911 you need to understand the history of goverments which is documented but you have to dig deep to find it
 
Gman said:
yep true, question is why would someone who believed that what he was doing was the will of god mask his identity, if they truly believed they were doing it for god then they would be proud of what they where doing and wouldn't hide there identiy.
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Possibly to enable them to prepare and carry out the acts in the first place.

The hijackers and their ilk are not overly thick, and the organisers certainly are not, and would do as much as possible to ensure that their plan works out the way they want it to.
If that means stealing someones identity and using it during the preperation/execution phase of the "operation" to minimise their chance of getting caught then that is exactly what they will do - it's no use being proud of what you're going to do, if it prevents you from doing it.
It could also be taken as a precation to protect the higher ups in the organisation, as if you don't know the real identity of the people who commit the act it's likely to slow you down when it comes to tracking down the people behind it (you can only work your way backwards through the evidence, rather than from both directions)
 
Nicola said:
i have spent the last 5year studying this amongst other things i like to stay in the middle and look at both sides of the argument before i made my mind up ,and to understand 911 you need to understand the history of goverments which is documented but you have to dig deep to find it
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Which reduces to "I haven't got a clue."
 
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