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970 my bottleneck?

mediamatt

mediamatt

mediamatt

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Hi,

Is my 970 the bottleneck in this scenario? Running an overclocked MSI 970 and an I7 6700k @4.5ghz


Playing Farcry Primal, Hitman and Tom Clancy The Division has my 970 hitting 95-100% load pretty much all the time yet my cpu is only 30-40% load.

Will I gain a lot by going to a 980ti? Im only getting 20fps with everything on max on tom clancy and hitman.

Matt
 
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mediamatt said:
Hi,

Is my 970 the bottleneck in this scenario?

Playing Farcry Primal, Hitman and Tom Clancy The Division has my 970 hitting 95-100% load pretty much all the time yet my cpu is only 30-40% load.

Will I gain a lot by going to a 980ti? Im only getting 20fps with everything on max on tom clancy and hitman.

Matt
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You want your GPU to be at 100%. Depending on your res a 970 is very capable at 1080-1440. If you are gaming at 1080 the cpu will be the bottle neck as it cannot provide enough instructions to the GPU which will be outputting more frames than the CPU can handle, this becomes less apparent the higher the res as the GPU produces less frames so the CPU can then start to feed enough instructions per frame ( Someone with more direct answer will be along shortly).

C
 
I've just run a benchmark on Hitman and with High settings. Was getting 28fps. Thats with a 6700k overclocked to 4.5ghz and an overclocked MSI 970. The load on the CPU for the demo was 23-28% and the load on the GPU was 99% throughout. (can see the history of this on the cam software i have with the cooler)

That looks to me like only 23-28% of my cpu is saturating the 970? Am i right? If so , if i get a 980ti i should see a massive gain in fps as the processor will get a lot more load and the 980ti is much faster than the 970 anyway?

This is running at 2560x1080 21:9 btw

Matt
 
Use Gpuz and check max vram usage while gaming. If it goes above 3.5gb ther is your issue why gtx970 tanks
 
A 980Ti will work well with your CPU but I would hold off doing that till Pascal and just turn the odd setting down for now. April will hopefully bring some news about Pascal and Polaris.
 
Gregster said:
A 980Ti will work well with your CPU but I would hold off doing that till Pascal and just turn the odd setting down for now. April will hopefully bring some news about Pascal and Polaris.
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I was going to do that but from what i hear, only the low-mid end cards will be released this summer and the 1080i or whatever its going to be called will be december onwards. I wouldnt mind buying the 980ti now and then just selling it and moving up if its a big leap early next year.

Matt
 
mediamatt said:
I was going to do that but from what i hear, only the low-mid end cards will be released this summer and the 1080i or whatever its going to be called will be december onwards. I wouldnt mind buying the 980ti now and then just selling it and moving up if its a big leap early next year.

Matt
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I would expect the mid tier to keep up with the 980Ti or surpass it in truth and April 4th is not long away. Of course if you can't wait, a 980Ti is a sweet card and surpasses the 970 by a nice chunk.
 
Gregster said:
I would expect the mid tier to keep up with the 980Ti or surpass it in truth and April 4th is not long away. Of course if you can't wait, a 980Ti is a sweet card and surpasses the 970 by a nice chunk.
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Really? So the 1080ti should be amazing then if the mid can keep up with the 980ti?
 
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Really? So the 1080ti should be amazing then if the mid can keep up with the 980ti?
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The only issue is WHEN will the 1080Ti be released.

Nvidia will most definitely be releasing a Titan at close to £1K to milk for around 6-9 months before releasing it, unless they are being forced their hands from AMD side...which they might milk the Titan for shorter length of time.
 
mediamatt said:
Really? So the 1080ti should be amazing then if the mid can keep up with the 980ti?
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The biggest problem is rumors and that is all we have to go on but with the node shrink being halved, I expect a hefty gain in performance over current 28nm cards. I expect the 970 replacement to beat the 980Ti and would be disappointed big time if it didn't happen but depending on die sizes will depend on what performance we get and early die sizes will probably be the smaller 300mm² size.
 
Gregster said:
The biggest problem is rumors and that is all we have to go on but with the node shrink being halved, I expect a hefty gain in performance over current 28nm cards. I expect the 970 replacement to beat the 980Ti and would be disappointed big time if it didn't happen but depending on die sizes will depend on what performance we get and early die sizes will probably be the smaller 300mm² size.
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Actually only AMD halves the size of the die using 14nm FET. Nvidia is using 16nmFF
 
I have a i7 6700k at 4.5 with a Gigabyte Xtreme 970 GPU running 99% all the time when gaming. Settings on high at 1440 G-Sync with the new Hitman getting anywhere from 45 to 55fps. Game runs very well. Very smooth in fact. couldn't be happier.

I'll be upgrading when Pascal releases.
 
marc2003 said:
Turn a few settings down and save your money. Any game is still going to look/run great on that card even you don't have all the bells and whistles on.
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This is the problem, simple as that. Don't get confused about CPU bottlenecks etc. OP, you're just asking too much of the GPU.
 
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