970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

Mei · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:31

Tonester0011 said:
Your comparison is somewhat contradictory, a 3GB card works fine with no stutter yet the 970 with more than 3gb stutters? Hmm, must be the ram! :O

yeh something going on with the 970's more than the ram ><

SHOGUNXSHINOBI · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:35

Boomstick777 said:
^^

Man some of these guys must be so blinded by some twisted sense of fanboy loyalty that just can't see why Nvidia are at fault here.

Literally amazing, must be nice though to be able to remain in blissful ignorance. That's a trait they share with Nvidia.

If people lie I know to steer clear.. When corporations / business put out false advertising I know to avoid..

3.5GB + 0.5GB.
Less ROPS.
Less Cache.

It literally doesn't get any plainer..

Each to their own though.

Agreed

Mayh3M · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:40

Kaapstad said:
I would not touch one of those Titans with a barge pole.

Can you please elaborate on this. I'm considering the next titan so I can forget about longevity and game in peace.

Kaapstad · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:46

Mayh3M said:
Can you please elaborate on this. I'm considering the next titan so I can forget about longevity and game in peace.

My original post was a joke as most of the guys on these forums already know I own 4 Titans.

One thing I would say to you though is if you are considering these type of cards is you need at least 2 to get the most out of them. If you use a single next gen Titan you probably won't get close to filling the frame buffer which defeats the point of using them.

Mei · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:46

lol not sure if there is such a thing as longevity in pc stuff
decent set of headphones mebe

Mayh3M · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:49

Kaapstad said:
My original post was a joke as most of the guys on these forums already know I own 4 Titans.

One thing I would say to you though is if you are considering these type of cards is you need at least 2 to get the most out of them. If you use a single next gen Titan you probably won't get close to filling the frame buffer which defeats the point of using them.

I plan to buy one for 1440p 60 FPS+ gaming for the next two years. Your thoughts?

Kaapstad · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:50

Mei said:
lol not sure if there is such a thing as longevity in pc stuff
decent set of headphones mebe

Mouse mat.

If there is such a thing as longevity the original Titans are it, 4 up at 4k they are smoother and better for gaming than 4 x 290Xs or 4 x 980s.

Tonester0011 · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:54

Mei said:
lol not sure if there is such a thing as longevity in pc stuff
decent set of headphones mebe

Keyboard, PSU, monitor etc.
Other than those most things are obsolete in a generation or two.

The exception being CPUs, as they have stagnated

Kaapstad · 1 Feb 2015 at 23:56

Mayh3M said:
I plan to buy one for 1440p 60 FPS+ gaming for the next two years. Your thoughts?

Lots of rumours are going around about the likely specs but the most creditable seems to be a GTX 980 x 1.5

IE

Cores 3072
SMM 24
ROPs 96
Bus 384 bit
VRAM 6gb or 12gb

What this means is in demanding games in years to come @1440p you are likely to need 2 Maxwell Titans or 3 GTX 980s. I am basing this on the fact that there are already games that need 2 x GTX 980s @1440p.

Mayh3M · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:01

Kaapstad said:
Lots of rumours are going around about the likely specs but the most creditable seems to be a GTX 980 x 1.5

IE

Cores 3072
SMM 24
ROPs 96
Bus 384 bit
VRAM 6gb or 12gb

What this means is in demanding games in years to come @1440p you are likely to need 2 Maxwell Titans or 3 GTX 980s. I am basing this on the fact that there are already games that need 2 x GTX 980s @1440p.

Thanks. And what's your opinion about a likely price? I saw somewhere $1300~. How would that translate to a UK launch price? and how do prices develop over time with these cards?

Mei · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:02

Kaapstad said:
Lots of rumours are going around about the likely specs but the most creditable seems to be a GTX 980 x 1.5

IE

Cores 3072
SMM 24
ROPs 96
Bus 384 bit
VRAM 6gb or 12gb

What this means is in demanding games in years to come @1440p you are likely to need 2 Maxwell Titans or 3 GTX 980s. I am basing this on the fact that there are already games that need 2 x GTX 980s @1440p.

vram prices do need to come down, i duno if its super expensive to make or they just overcharging but yeh, if we ever going to keep up on demand
AMD's stacked memory might be good if its cheaper, i know its cheaper to make in ssd but i duno if its the same, they use slower stuff in ssd

that 12gb card right now $$$$

Perfect_Chaos · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:10

Kaapstad said:
Lots of rumours are going around about the likely specs but the most creditable seems to be a GTX 980 x 1.5

IE

Cores 3072
SMM 24
ROPs 96
Bus 384 bit
VRAM 6gb or 12gb

What this means is in demanding games in years to come @1440p you are likely to need 2 Maxwell Titans or 3 GTX 980s. I am basing this on the fact that there are already games that need 2 x GTX 980s @1440p.

How would 2 almost high end cards, like for example upcoming 2x 390's (non x) handle 1440p?

Kaapstad · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:12

Mayh3M said:
Thanks. And what's your opinion about a likely price? I saw somewhere $1300~. How would that translate to a UK launch price? and how do prices develop over time with these cards?

This is only my guess but NVidia tend to work to a set price with their top cards which is around £840.00 so my guess is somewhere between £840.00 and £900.00

Just ran this for you

This is Crysis 3 maxed including 8XMSAA @1440p on 4 x GTX 980s

Frames,
7931,

Time (ms),
86360,

Min,
52,

Max,
177,

Avg
91.836,

This will give you an idea about what I was on about earlier.

Tonester0011 · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:12

Perfect_Chaos said:
How would 2 almost high end cards, like for example upcoming 2x 390's (non x) handle 1440p?

Slightly worse than the X versions...lol
If anyone gives you any other answer than that ignore it, the cards don't exist as of yet. Nothing worse than false hope.

humbug · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:13

tommybhoy said:
Difference being the non tech savvy's your talking about don't know Nlieia's 970's have been rumbled.

The one's having an issue with ramgate are tech savvy, monumental difference and why I originally said it's a **** comparison, but you are entitled basing your opinion as a valid comparison.

Bottom line-if a single Nlieia partner(PCPer/Anand etc) were to have stated the 970 had a 192 bus in their review, Nlieia would have been all over them like an STD remedy to fix their mistake.

Quoted for truth.

Perfect_Chaos · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:14

Tonester0011 said:
Slightly worse than the X versions...lol
If anyone gives you any other answer than that ignore it, the cards don't exist as of yet. Nothing worse than false hope.

Well obviously..

bit of a silly question i suppose but just wondered what others would say.

Have yet to move from 1080p yet, seems as though 1440p isn't exactly cheap to keep running with high frames though.

Mei · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:16

im sure ive had Nlieia on toast

Kaapstad · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:17

Perfect_Chaos said:
How would 2 almost high end cards, like for example upcoming 2x 390's (non x) handle 1440p?

I think the next up for AMD is the 380X for this year but again pure guess work I think the performance will be pretty close to the Maxwell Titans and if there is a 380P version about 10% slower than the 380X. Or putting it another way you are probably going to need two 380X(P)s @1440p to get close to maxing games for the next couple of years.

Tonester0011 · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:17

Perfect_Chaos said:
Well obviously.. bit of a silly question i suppose but just wondered what others would say.

Have yet to move from 1080p yet, seems as though 1440p isn't exactly cheap to keep running with high frames though.

It all depends if Nvidia are going to drop another Titan.
If they don't then you know the performance mark AMD will aim at. The 970 and 980, low bar. The fact nothing has been mentioned from them probably indicates they have something to counter big Maxwell.

If that's the case, it's anyones guess.

Mayh3M · 2 Feb 2015 at 00:20

Kaapstad said:
This is only my guess but NVidia tend to work to a set price with their top cards which is around £840.00 so my guess is somewhere between £840.00 and £900.00

Just ran this for you

This is Crysis 3 maxed including 8XMSAA @1440p on 4 x GTX 980s

Frames,
7931,

Time (ms),
86360,

Min,
52,

Max,
177,

Avg
91.836,

This will give you an idea about what I was on about earlier.

If it comes out at that price I would buy it NO QUESTIONS ASKED NO THOUGHTS GIVEN. Would be the DREAM.

As to that benchmark I'm not sure what you meant earlier by frame buffer? I am ignorant it seems.