9800gtx+ or 4850 ??

Konrad · 13 Dec 2008 at 21:56

hey, which card should i buy ?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-177-AS&tool=3

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail

My spec:
amd athlon64 x2 3800+ 2ghz
gforce 7600gt oc2 256 mb
OCZ 2gb PC2-6400 400mhz ddr2
Asus M2N Sli Deluxe (nforce 570sli)
500w psu
LG 19"

i am also upgrading my ram to 2x1gb OCZ 1150MHz ddr2(btw will my mobo work with this ram?) and i will upgrade my cpu to amd x4 9950 in couple of weeks.

I use my pc mainly for games- cod4 and games like that

willy · 13 Dec 2008 at 22:05

I would go for HIS IceQ Turbo 4850. But if you shop around, you could get 4870 for around £160 delivered

Konrad · 13 Dec 2008 at 22:29

yah ,but what make of4870 ?

willy · 13 Dec 2008 at 22:35

Sapphire

arc@css · 13 Dec 2008 at 23:34

I'd go for the Ice Q out of that selection but as mentioned above, if you can a 4870 pref 1gb then more the better.

mr griffin · 13 Dec 2008 at 23:40

out of them 3 options I would say the best card is the HIS ATI Radeon HD 4850 IceQ 4 Turbo 512MB

TheRealDeal · 13 Dec 2008 at 23:45

On the latest review i seen its the 4850 faster by a distance in most 9800 won some marginal but never pulled a lead. The link below is a 4850x2 review but shows the performance on latest drivers of both the 4850 and 9800gtx+.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/sapphire_radeon_4850_x2_review/page9.asp

LoadsaMoney · 13 Dec 2008 at 23:54

9800 GTX+

Above review didn't use the latest Nvida drivers, as the latest are not 180.47's, they are the Big Bangers, 180.48's.

Konrad · 13 Dec 2008 at 23:56

i have found nice sapphire 4870 512 on sale on net and i think i will go for it

168 quid includin delivery

TheRealDeal · 14 Dec 2008 at 00:00

LoadsaMoney said:
9800 GTX+

Lol loadsa check the review and tell me the same answer. Newest drivers.

arc@css · 14 Dec 2008 at 00:03

Whatever you choose you'll be pleased I think, both good cards.

LoadsaMoney · 14 Dec 2008 at 00:34

I did check the review.

System Setup

Intel
Core i7 965 Extreme Edition

Intel X58 Smackover Motherboard
3GB Qimonda DDR3-1066MHz

NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 w/216 shaders
ForceWare 180.47

ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB
Catalyst 8.12

latest Nvidia drivers are the Big Bang II's, 180.48

premist · 14 Dec 2008 at 00:45

I would go for the 4850 IceQ version

TheRealDeal · 14 Dec 2008 at 01:56

LoadsaMoney said:
I did check the review.

System Setup

Intel
Core i7 965 Extreme Edition

Intel X58 Smackover Motherboard
3GB Qimonda DDR3-1066MHz

NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 w/216 shaders
ForceWare 180.47

ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB
Catalyst 8.12

latest Nvidia drivers are the Big Bang II's, 180.48

Does not matter really 4850 still wins no matter what drivers you want to use. The drivers they use are still close to the latest nv drivers whatever way you want to look at it.

Rroff · 14 Dec 2008 at 02:40

180.47 aren't valid for benchmarking, 180.48, 180.60 or 180.84 give significant performance gains over them.

180.4x are buggy (in a couple of applications on certain configs) tho I advise using the .60 or .84 betas.

Konrad · 14 Dec 2008 at 11:31

Okey , I've ordered sapphire hd 4870 512, found one on internet that was on sale for 160 quid. I know that I asked about those 3 cards and didnt even mention 4870 but the sale started just last night. looked up on them comparison sites where they compare hd 4870 toxic 512 to normal 4870 512 and to 1gb version, to be honest i thought the one that i went for did quite well , in some games better than gtx 260. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/sapphire_toxic_4870_review/page5.asp

willhub · 14 Dec 2008 at 12:15

Good choice, plenty faster than a 9800GTX+ from what I've seen.

Shocky-FM · 14 Dec 2008 at 13:52

TheRealDeal said:
Does not matter really 4850 still wins no matter what drivers you want to use. The drivers they use are still close to the latest nv drivers whatever way you want to look at it.

Only reason 4850 wins so much in that review is because there using 8xAA in most of the tests, the most commonly used AA setting which people use is 4xAA and at 4xAA the results are not quite so clear cut.

Just another example of cherry picked results, but coming from TheRealDeal it's not that surprising, one of the biggest ATI fanboys on this forum.

willhub said:
Good choice, plenty faster than a 9800GTX+ from what I've seen.

Indeed, good choice.

TheRealDeal · 14 Dec 2008 at 14:05

Shocky-FM said:
Only reason 4850 wins so much in that review is because there using 8xAA in most of the tests, the most commonly used AA setting which people use is 4xAA and at 4xAA the results are not quite so clear cut.

Just another example of cherry picked results, but coming from TheRealDeal it's not that surprising, one of the biggest ATI fanboys on this forum.

Indeed, good choice.

Shocky stop talking a lot of rubbish. I read articles and reviews just because i tend to agree with the results does not make me a fanboy. The biggest fanboys tend to be the ones accussing other people of being fanboys. Just for the record are you trying to say that a 9800gtx+ is a better card than the 4850?

Shocky-FM · 14 Dec 2008 at 14:17

TheRealDeal said:
Shocky stop talking a lot of rubbish. I read articles and reviews just because i tend to agree with the results does not make me a fanboy. The biggest fanboys tend to be the ones accussing other people of being fanboys. Just for the record are you trying to say that a 9800gtx+ is a better card than the 4850?

I'm not getting drawn into a discussion with you, suffice to say I see you pretty much every day in these threads defending/promoting ATI products and attacking users that disagree with you.

Until you stop doing this my opinion of you is not going to change.