Hi, thanks for all your comments - the first and 3rd ones were taken at about 6 o'clock on the friday evening - the second one was taken mid afternoon on the saturday. They were taken with a Minolta Dynax 7d, and a Vivitar 28-200 f3.5-f5.6, which was really struggling in the low light. I shot them in raw + jpeg, and these are the jpeg's that came straight off the camera, I just haven't had the time to process the raw files... I'm looking for a better lense at the moment, but can't stretch to a f2.8 70-200, so I'm looking at the minolta f4 70-210. Has anyone had experience of this lense? The reviews I've read seem favourable, but I'm not sure whether it will be an improvement..