A few questions about the macbook pro :)

XD-3 · 27 Jan 2007 at 04:05

Hi All

Just a few quick question about the macbook pro.

Will be getting a 17" flavor very soon (its my first mac :cool:

) and was wondering it comes with built in Airport Extreme 802.11g soon to be .11n also??
So what would be the purpose of getting an AirPort Extreme Card or am i missing the point as in there would not be a need to get one?

And also about the Airport Extreme Base Station is this just an 802.11n access point will built in switch so still would require a DSL modem/Router connected to a phone line to access the Internet?

And finally the most important question of all i have herd the 17" macbook pro suffers from the lid falling in on itself or falling back on itself when in certain positions on your nee ? is the hinge really that loose

+ can anyone recommend the glossy screen over the mat i have read it is much better? more vibrant color depth?

Thanks for any help can't wait to join the mac family or should i say the lightside. (coming from someone who has an FX-55 gaming machine running vista

)

but OSX just looks so amazing so im going to port sides and see if im hooked over or not. Needed a lappy for collage anyways and with the event of bootcamp i saw the lite

XD-3

Will_3rd · 27 Jan 2007 at 09:57

XD-3 said:
Hi All

Just a few quick question about the macbook pro.

Will be getting a 17" flavor very soon (its my first mac ) and was wondering it comes with built in Airport Extreme 802.11g soon to be .11n also??
So what would be the purpose of getting an AirPort Extreme Card or am i missing the point as in there would not be a need to get one?

It does come with built in wireless, the enabler for "N" comes on a cd with the airport base station. If you wanted to use "N" without the Apple base station you might have to pay to upgrade, but that might change.

XD-3 said:
And also about the Airport Extreme Base Station is this just an 802.11n access point will built in switch so still would require a DSL modem/Router connected to a phone line to access the Internet?

Yes you would require your own modem.

XD-3 said:
And finally the most important question of all i have herd the 17" macbook pro suffers from the lid falling in on itself or falling back on itself when in certain positions on your nee ? is the hinge really that loose.

I have heard about that problem, but nobody on these forums has reported it yet AFAIK.

XD-3 said:
+ can anyone recommend the glossy screen over the matte i have read it is much better? more vibrant color depth?

gloss does give more vibrant colours but they are false so it wouldn't be good for picture/video editing. Plus it is more prone to picking up finger prints, Matte has better anti-glare protection.

nero120 · 27 Jan 2007 at 14:25

I have the gloss macbook pro 15" and I have used it for design work with no problem. Everyone feels the need to explain how the colours would be false, but in my experience the colours have been fine for going to CMYK print so i challenge the naysayers to prove me wrong! Go for the gloss screen, it is far far better than the matte.

Will_3rd · 27 Jan 2007 at 14:50

nero120 said:
I have the gloss macbook pro 15" and I have used it for design work with no problem. Everyone feels the need to explain how the colours would be false, but in my experience the colours have been fine for going to CMYK print so i challenge the naysayers to prove me wrong! Go for the gloss screen, it is far far better than the matte.

I wasn't naysaying it

gloss does look better, just saying the gospel truth

ringo747 · 27 Jan 2007 at 15:35

i do quite a bit of video editing and i've always been told to go for matte finish screens. Haven't done any editing with my Macbook Pro as yet but will report back when I do.

Another thing people mention with glossy screens is the reflections. Unless you are working in an area with no direct lights or whatever, then you will get bad reflections of the screen.

This is all just what I have been told so it could be wrong.

HTH

nero120 · 27 Jan 2007 at 17:16

Will_3rd said:
I wasn't naysaying it gloss does look better, just saying the gospel truth

Fair enough, I wasn't actually referring to you, but loads of people on other forums seem to really lay into the gloss screens. I think the bottom line is it is simply a matter of preference.

Will_3rd · 27 Jan 2007 at 17:22

nero120 said:
Fair enough, I wasn't actually referring to you, but loads of people on other forums seem to really lay into the gloss screens. I think the bottom line is it is simply a matter of preference.

Agreed

XD-3 · 27 Jan 2007 at 23:33

thanks for all the replays guys

any more discussion on the gloss screen would be greatly aprishiated as i cannot choose on preference because i have never owned a gloss screen and have no apple store near me to check it out

And also anyone with a 17" who could report on the hinge question this would also be of great help.

Im getting so excited about getting it really cant wait

OSX is going to look awsome on my 40" HDTV and im hoping its going to be faster then my current windows rig...
FX-55 2.6GIG
2GIG RAM
7800GTX

That is faster for a laptop i mean

XD-3

Will_3rd · 28 Jan 2007 at 11:40

XD-3 said:
any more discussion on the gloss screen would be greatly appreciated as i cannot choose on preference because I have never owned a gloss screen and have no apple store near me to check it out

The glossy screen definitely looks better, my flatmates Acer laptop has got a glossy screen and I think it looks very nice. Wish I had one on my iBook.

The first google result brings this up:

http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-202306.html

XD-3 said:
I'm hoping its going to be faster then my current windows rig...
FX-55 2.6GIG
2GIG RAM
7800GTX

That is faster for a laptop i mean

The Core2Duo and the RAM in the Macbook Pro will better then your current machine, but your PC will have the better graphics as the GPU is superior to the X1600.

ringo747 · 28 Jan 2007 at 13:32

only other thing i would say is that I asked the apple staff about the choice of screen and they said for graphics/video/photo editing definitely go for the matte finish. I would assume that they have more knowlegde about the products than I would so I took their word for it.

nero120 · 28 Jan 2007 at 21:58

jonnyc747 said:
only other thing i would say is that I asked the apple staff about the choice of screen and they said for graphics/video/photo editing definitely go for the matte finish. I would assume that they have more knowlegde about the products than I would so I took their word for it.

As I said before, it makes no difference. And I wouldn't trust those guys if I were spending near £2000 on a laptop, I'd do my own research first (which I did).

ringo747 · 28 Jan 2007 at 23:22

nero120 said:
As I said before, it makes no difference. And I wouldn't trust those guys if I were spending near £2000 on a laptop, I'd do my own research first (which I did).

dont get me wrong im not slating either type of screen but goin on past experience with mates glossy screens they didn't compare to matte for the kind of work i'd be doing albeit they were a lot cheaper lappies than a mbp.

XD-3 · 29 Jan 2007 at 04:46

thanks for all the help with this guys

I'm still really divided on the Matt or glossy screen going to see if i can find any reviews that mention the glossy screen and see if i can find any comparisons.

Thanks for all comments
XD-3

fdxd · 29 Jan 2007 at 10:01

go for matte. Glossy is annoying.

nero120 · 29 Jan 2007 at 10:09

Go for glossy. Matte is annoying.

tsinc80697 · 29 Jan 2007 at 12:40

i have glossy and cant see any problems with it.
By people saying it doesn't produce the colours correctly, all you have to do is calibrate the screen correctly and save it as a profile :/ not hard!

XD-3 · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:09

tsinc80697 said:
i have glossy and cant see any problems with it.
By people saying it doesn't produce the colours correctly, all you have to do is calibrate the screen correctly and save it as a profile :/ not hard!

yes this is what i was thinking, for things like photoshop ill just use custom profiles. But one thing i would like to ask with the gloss screen does it make the display appear dim ? as in less bright...

Thanks
XD-3

JonB · 29 Jan 2007 at 18:29

Not really noticed it on my macbook. It looks the dogs on that, imo!

Sherm · 13 Feb 2007 at 20:11

Have the 17" pro here, do not have the glossy as use it under different light sources etc, but can say that the normal screen is great and slightly 'shinnier' than other laptop screens.
As for the screen flapping around, nope, non of that and get moved about everyday to and from work.
Absolutly an amazing bit of kit

Neoni · 14 Feb 2007 at 16:49

i have the MBP 17"

Get glossy, and no problems with the joint being loose.