A few questions regarding an old mobo and cpu.

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OK here's a list of questions that no doubt you guys will be able to answer and sorry about the long winded post.

Just to explain, I'm in the process of overhauling and cleaning my old Akasa Raptor gaming case which I bought 7 years ago for my current PC which I'm about to update/upgrade. The case itself is still ideal for my requirements by having all the attributes, bays etc I require and quite frankly apart from only having USB 2 on the front panel, I can't find any cases that actually meet my needs quite so well so I'll use that for now. The Be-Quiet 530w psu is also still working fine too.

I had intended to replace the old Mobo, Cpu etc in the next week or so with a Ryzen 2400 G based system to have a go at entry level gaming and will probably do so in the near future but to aid learning and experiment with OC'ing, I've decided to have a bit of fun with my current old Gigagbyte board and Phenom 11 x 4 955 BE before getting the new kit. I would point out that most of the new components will be either used on the new build or in a backup computer which I'll build from the current mobo and cpu etc.

So far I've replaced the CPU cooler for the Phenom which sounded like a train when the processor got hot and replaced it with a cheap Artic Freezer 7 which so far is working admirably and quietly too, albeit a bit clunky to fit initially but for the price ( £16) it's doing the job very well.
I also fitted some new quite gutsy Akasa fans which really do pull the air out but they are a bit noisy at full pelt so my first question is...will they work with a fan speed controller or do I need fans suitable for being controlled by a fan controller?
Akasa do an analogue fan controller for about £25.00 which appears to be just what I need and will match my case and existing internal card reader and the controller would be ideal for keeping down the fan noise when the CPU isn't working hard.

I've also added a 240gb WD SSD and a second 1tb WD HDD which the computer recognises but I don't seem to be having much luck cloning the existing HDD drive which needs replacing as it's showing bad sectors. I've tried it with the free Macrium software but I might end up having to re-install everything which I'd hoped to avoid.
My mobo only has SATA 2 so obviously it won't be as fast as a modern mobo with SATA 3 but the addition of the SSD will still speed up things substantially relative to SATA 2 and only a HDD so it will do for now and I'll use the SSD for my OS in the new build.

For a bit of fun, I might even add a GT 1050ti to the existing set up to have a go at entry level gaming as looking at Youtube, with a Phenom 955 BE overclocked, it will still give similar results to the Ryzen 2400 G APU system and by having a GT 1050ti, it would allow me to get away from a APU based system when I upgrade. I could still use a 2400G alongside the 1050ti if I went down that route although it could be seen as a waste. and it would be better spent of a faster processor with 1050ti.
Again that raises the question...will the 1050ti still work reasonably given that the PCI e 16x is only 2.0 and not 3.0 as with modern boards?
Obviously the existing 4 gb of RAM is only DDR3 x 1600 so will be slower than DDR 4 in a modern board but I might add another 4 gb of matching ram ( about £40 new) to go alongside the 1050ti. Unfortunately by adding the new cooler it's a bit tight so I've lost one of the 4 ram slots so the next question is, will a single 4gb in the one remaining slot plus the 2 x 2gb in the other slots run balanced or are they likely to mis-match?

I know you're probably thinking that I could be spending that money on the new build but it's important that I have a backup computer and anything that can't be used in the new build will be used in the backup so it won't be entirely wasted and will still be put to good use and once I choose the bits for the new build I'll replace the 1tb HDD with an SSD and use the HDD in the backup computer.

Any advice appreciated.
 
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I also fitted some new quite gutsy Akasa fans which really do pull the air out but they are a bit noisy at full pelt so my first question is...will they work with a fan speed controller or do I need fans suitable for being controlled by a fan controller?
Any fans should work with a fan controller. You just need to make sure the fans don't overload the controller (unlikely).
Again that raises the question...will the 1050ti still work reasonably given that the PCI e 16x is only 2.0 and not 3.0 as with modern boards?
Should be fine.
Unfortunately by adding the new cooler it's a bit tight so I've lost one of the 4 ram slots so the next question is, will a single 4gb in the one remaining slot plus the 2 x 2gb in the other slots run balanced or are they likely to mis-match?
Check the motherboard manual for permitted memory configurations. It should work, but you will loose dual channel (not usually a massive issue). I'd pull the two 2GB sticks and replace them both.

I wouldn't have thought that an Artic Freezer 7 would block any slots. It's quite a small cooler.
 
Definitely TLDNR post :). The actual questions appear to be:-


Any fans should work with a fan controller. You just need to make sure the fans don't overload the controller (unlikely).

Should be fine.
Check the motherboard manual for permitted memory configurations. It should work, but you will loose dual channel (not usually a massive issue). I'd pull the two 2GB sticks and replace them both.

I wouldn't have thought that an Artic Freezer 7 would block any slots. It's quite a small cooler.
Definitely TLDNR post :). The actual questions appear to be:-


Any fans should work with a fan controller. You just need to make sure the fans don't overload the controller (unlikely).

Should be fine.
Check the motherboard manual for permitted memory configurations. It should work, but you will loose dual channel (not usually a massive issue). I'd pull the two 2GB sticks and replace them both.

I wouldn't have thought that an Artic Freezer 7 would block any slots. It's quite a small cooler.

Thanks for the prompt reply.
The board is micro-atx and the cooler which while not huge, actually makes it extremely difficult to get the nearest ram stick in the slot. I might have another go but it's awfully tight and would really need at least 2-3mm extra room to get it in without bending it and possibly damaging it. It's actually the plastic frame of the fan mounting which is the issue. I could maybe even ease the cooler away from the ram but it might mean not quite as much base contact between the cooler and the cpu. I've run the cooler for several hours with only the front fan working and the fins and air around them are remarkably cool so shouldn't damage the ram through heat.

The Akasa fan controller is stated to control up to 6 fans @ a max of 20w each so that shouldn't present any issues as long as the fan speeds can actually be controlled.
I've just checked online and according to the Crucial scan, in theory it will accept either one 4gb stick or 2 x 2gb to go with the existing ram.

At least I can say I'm learning by doing it this way and will be better placed in deciding what will go in my forthcoming new build.
 
Can't you fit the memory first?

I tried fitting the memory first but to get the cooler seated squarely, it needs the finned unit fitting first with the fan mounting removed in order to screw the mounting clamps down. Once in place it doesn't leave quite enough space to slide the ram sticks past the fan mounting to seat them after the fan mounting is in place. As i've said, it's a bit of a clunky cooler but it certainly keeps the CPU cool with barely any noise from the cooling fan even with the case sides off, unlike the old one which wouldn't have sounded out of place on the wing of a Boeing 747 when the CPU got warm.

As for my question about fans, that's very well sorted! The Akasa controller I ordered yesterday was delivered an hour ago and I've hooked it up temporarily to test it out and so far it's working brilliantly. For just under £25, it's the best extra I think I've fitted other than my Akasa multi card reader which I'm using daily. The controller matches and fits nicely into my Akasa case and I can run the fans from full speed to virtual tickover or off if not required. The Akasa fans are a bit noisy at full speed but very efficient so unless the CPU is being hammered, noise shouldn't be an issue.

The case will accommodate up to 5 fans ( 4 x 120mm and 1 x 140) but I'll just fit 4 so that 2 will push and 2 will pull.
 
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