A first car. Suggestions please.

PMKeates · 12 Aug 2006 at 18:58

[TW]Fox said:
You can if you think outside the box and buy something other than yet ANOTHER Clio.

I had a 2.0 16v engine and 0-60 in 9 seconds insured at 19
PMkeates at the same age has 3 litres and 231bhp of BMW goodness..

But then I don't eat pot noodles and wear worn wooly jumpers (i.e. student). I eat microwave meals and wear wooly slippers (i.e. full time employment)

If you don't mind what a car looks like, then something bigger will serve you much better. A Mondeo is a good car - I know as, like Fox, I've had one. They posses an ideal amalgamation of performance, ride+handling, comfort and equipment. They're safe on the limit and at least all come with ABS and an airbag!

tsinc80697 · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:10

If i tried to get insured on a 2l 16v car id get something silly like £5000 for a quote thrown back at me.
Guess its just down to where you live then

PMKeates · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:19

tsinc80697 said:
If i tried to get insured on a 2l 16v car id get something silly like £5000 for a quote thrown back at me.
Guess its just down to where you live then

I don't pay half that for a Group 17 car with a fault claim! How long have you been driving?

tsinc80697 · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:29

1 year, 0 no claims.
Pay £700 TPFT on a Fiesta 1.25 1997 reg. ( Group 6 i think )
Think it was £2000 if i went fully comp.

Looking to change my car aswell, been looking around and cant decide on smoething new or something 2nd hand, want something that will last a few years without problems.

Replicant · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:45

For some reason changing the policy to TPFT actually adds about 2% to the cost compared to comprehensive, depends on the company i guess, can you afford to simply replace the car if you crash it, if you cant you should really be going fully comp.

Paulj · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:52

I used to get quoted £2500 for 1999 1.1 saxo and 1998 1.2 clio when i was 17, it depends on where you live.
Now ive had my licence for almost 3 years and almost 20, my insurance for the 1998 1.2 clio is £1200.

Also, more on topic, i think you'll find the pedal arrangement in the saxo very uncomfy, especially if your tall and have big feet. The clutch is in a stupid position and it all feels very cramped. Saxo > mondeo though tbh

4ndy89 · 12 Aug 2006 at 19:55

I've always liked cars

sorry to go off topic, but did anyone else find this funny

[TW]Fox · 13 Aug 2006 at 01:57

Paulj said:
Saxo > mondeo though tbh

Only im terms of chuckability. Inferior in every other way bar running costs.

rG-tom · 13 Aug 2006 at 03:20

hehe love people comparing its 0-60 to a mondeo but completely ignoring a vtr does 60 in second, the mondeo needing third....thus adding a second ish to the 0-60, so more compareable to things like 220GSi's on the road (which do 60 in ~8 seconds)....I know, i've played with 2 of them

I managed to get 8.9 from the same G metre on the same stretch of road as fox

Tom.

GT3 · 13 Aug 2006 at 03:36

rG-tom said:
hehe love people comparing its 0-60 to a mondeo but completely ignoring a vtr does 60 in second, the mondeo needing third....thus adding a second ish to the 0-60, so more compareable to things like 220GSi's on the road (which do 60 in ~8 seconds)....I know, i've played with 2 of them I managed to get 8.9 from the same G metre on the same stretch of road as fox

Tom.

Wrong, a vtr will only do about 57 in second but the speedo shows just over 60 which is where the confusion lies. Been confirmed by GPS in my car.

rG-tom · 13 Aug 2006 at 03:47

GT3 said:
Wrong, a vtr will only do about 57 in second but the speedo shows just over 60 which is where the confusion lies. Been confirmed by GPS in my car.

isn't the quoted 0-60 in 2nd though? :s

Tom.

GT3 · 13 Aug 2006 at 11:16

rG-tom said:
isn't the quoted 0-60 in 2nd though? :s

Tom.

Well as that is impossible, I'm saying no.

PMKeates · 13 Aug 2006 at 11:55

Based on official figures:

Saxo VTR
100hp, 100lb/ft, 920kg = 109hp/ton, 109lb/ft /ton

2.0 Mondeo
130hp, 132lb/ft, 1242kg = 105hp/ton, 106lb/ft /ton

The VTR has roughly a 3% advantage with regards to its figures for acceleration. However, the Mondeo with a 30% advantage in specific output will see advantages as aerodynamics start to become important (60mph>).

For the benefit of Fox, if the Mondeo has 136hp, it has a small power-to-weight advantage