A good option to replace Asus Rog Swift PG278Q

XavierCastiel

XavierCastiel

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It's an old monitor at this point and just died. The power adapter is working but the power button on the monitor is dead. It's served me well but it looks as if I need an urgent replacement. The specs for the current monitor were 1440p, 27 inch, 144hz refresh rate, G-Sync, TN Panel.

I'm not entirely sure what to replace the existing one with. 1440p seems to still be the ideal sweetspot and the 27 inch screen was more than enough for my needs. An increased fresh rate may be a requirement for some but I wouldn't take advantage of 240hz in a multiplayer gaming sense anyway. When I do get around to playing some games they tend to be singleplayer experiences with a framerate between 50-80 in the latest titles on high / ultra. Older titles would have course exceed 144 without framecaps. G-Sync is a must and IPS would be preferred, it's just the last time I upgraded the TN panel was £509. I can't even remember if there were any IPS panels at the time, there weren't even many 1440p high refresh rate options available.

Any really good suggestions? I will set aside a budget of £500 again, hopefully that's more than enough in the current market for a good monitor. If I need to stretch the budget I can.
 
How do you know that power adapter is working?
Some light indicator on its side doesn't automatically mean that voltage is correct and ripple inside tolerances.

Anyway for those single player games wide gamut IPS would be notable improvement to experience from sRGB TN.
Though while LG's 27" 2560x1440 panels are popular would myself steer away from those.
For some inexplicable reason contrast is from dozen+ years ago and also while previously the maker of the widest gamut panels, nowadays LG can't get over DCI-P3.

AU Optronics again has well above normal for IPS contrast and makes also AdobeRGB gamut covering panels.
MSI MAG274QRF has such panel.
MSI 27" MAG274QRF-QD 2560x1440 IPS Quantum Dot 165Hz 1ms FreeSync/G-Sync Widescreen LED Backlit Gami (SKU: MO-015-MS) = £448.99

https://www.displayninja.com/msi-mag274qrf-qd-review/
 
I wasn't the one who tested it. My Stepdad said it had 19 volts passing through it. Apart from a bit of backlight bleed forming in the past 12 months in the lower right corner the monitor had been perfect since day 1.

That MSI Monitor looks mightily impressive. I was watching some YouTube videos and the Samsung Odyssey G7 is another I may consider. Should I be concerned with the G-Sync compatible tag? Is G-Sync compatible the same as G-Sync exclusive? G-Sync would respond the same way as it does on my current monitor right?

The Samsung Odyssey G7 is £100 more than the MSI one you recommended. Aesthetically the Samsung looks better to me but the Samsung apparently as poor quality control. Between the two would you still stand by the MSI option?
 
XavierCastiel said:
The Samsung Odyssey G7 is £100 more than the MSI one you recommended. Aesthetically the Samsung looks better to me but the Samsung apparently as poor quality control. Between the two would you still stand by the MSI option?
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Keep in mind that the Samsung has a *very* deep curve and takes some time to get used to, That MSI is supposedly the pick of the bunch atm, very very good I gather :)
 
EsaT said:
But is that genuine 19V DC, or 19V DC offset for some 5V AC?
You need oscilloscope to know what's the real output quality.
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He said he used a MicroMetre to test the voltage so I guess it may have been an inaccurate reading but he did follow that up stating the 19v DC as opposed to the 5V AC. You're speaking to somebody who doesn't really understand these things and my Stepdad is not the type of person to come on here and explain. It's a challenge enough just to get him to help whenever things go wrong with things I have no knowledge of.

JediFragger said:
Keep in mind that the Samsung has a *very* deep curve and takes some time to get used to, That MSI is supposedly the pick of the bunch atm, very very good I gather :)
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Yeah, after watching some more YouTube videos I noticed that MSI being recommended a couple of times. Looks like it's unavailable at this time through Overclockers (on order) I know we're not allowed competitor talk here but I wouldn't want to buy from anywhere else anyway, always had good experiences with Overclockers in the past. Yeah, I'm aware of flat vs curved I'm sure I'd get used to it. My only big sticking point isn't the price of either but the quality control and receiving a good monitor out of the box. tbh I can overlook some monitor defects but dead pixels, horrific backlight bleeding and anything easily noticeable would have to be returned which is more hassle. Hopefully my order is no dud. Still undecided between the one recommended by ESAT MSI Mag 274QRF-QD and the Samsung Odyssey G7 27 inch 1440p models.

I also read the Samsung as it's problems with flickering and can be really slow to power on which is not a good sign. My Rog Swift was almost instant. My Windows 10 boots up pretty fast on the Nvme drive so if I can't see that split second BIOS screen because the monitor is still syncing up that's a potential issue.
 
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XavierCastiel said:
He said he used a MicroMetre to test the voltage so I guess it may have been an inaccurate reading but he did follow that up stating the 19v DC as opposed to the 5V AC.
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There's device called as micrometer, but that has nothing to do with electricity...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometer_(device)
What is needed looks this:


Samsung isn't only curved, but almost bent in double.
Without that extreme curvature being taken into account in rendering (or projection) of content that distorts geometry:
https://youtu.be/go1qsBetgV0?t=255
It would be comparable to trying to read newspaper bent into curve instead of flat.
 
EsaT said:
There's device called as micrometer, but that has nothing to do with electricity...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometer_(device)
What is needed looks this:


Samsung isn't only curved, but almost bent in double.
Without that extreme curvature being taken into account in rendering (or projection) of content that distorts geometry:
https://youtu.be/go1qsBetgV0?t=255
It would be comparable to trying to read newspaper bent into curve instead of flat.
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My mistake it was a Multimeter not a Micrometer.

I will order the MSI Mag274QRF-QD the second it's available again. Are there any good up to date OSD / profiles to follow as a base as the latter firmwares introduced sRGB? I have bookmarked the MSI driver page as well just incase I need to update the drivers, firmware and the Gaming OSD. Hopefully no dead pixels upon arrival... Seems to be the most common complaint in the negative reviews.
 
Cheap multimeters might not even give accurate reading for alternating voltage unless perfectly sinusoidal.
Some top multimeters (costing like £200 from Brymen and many times that from Fluke) can have bandwidth for up to 100kHz, but even those tell very little about true output quality.
Even low level scopes (short for oscilloscope) have like hundred times the bandwidth.


Normal monitor adjustments apply.
If brightness of white is too high, use brightness setting to adjust that first.
Changing contrast keeps backligth brightness same and while it can make white less bright that happens by blocking more light with panel and sacrificing contrast range without improvement in black level.
Again lowering brightness always improves black level and lowers IPS glow.

There's little sense in sRGB mode unless you just want to handicap monitor to old limited colour range. (or use 150% garbage software)
What is called as "driver" should be icc profile to tell colour space aware applications what's the monitor's gamut, so that they can show sRGB content without exaggerated colours.
For example image viewer of Windows and Firefox are colour managed.
 
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