A long overdue upgrade...

[wanderer89]

Hello there...

Currently rocking a 1060 6gb which is struggling in games now so I think I'm due an upgrade. With all the changes since I last bought one I'm not sure where to go now AMD have come back into it so to speak. I'm worried about a potential bottleneck due to CPU but don't want to upgrade that too just yet. Also unsure whether I'd need to upgrade my PSU to handle the newer GPU's?

Specs:

5600x
32GB RAM
EVGA 750 GQ 80+ Gold
27" 1440p/180hz monitor, do want to upgrade to potentially UW or even 4K in near future though.

Budget: A reluctant £1k!

Games:

Warzone 2
Division 2
GTA V
Hogwarts Legacy
Destiny 2
RDR 2

I'd like to play the games on max if possible, if not then high. I've had to play games on low for so long so it'd be nice to be able to crank stuff up!

 

[Jay-G25]

a little over your budget but 2 birds with 1 stone and all that

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Enjoy the FPS

 

[Trypta]

I'd say just pick up a 7900xtx pulse if your budget is £1k. You shouldn't be bottlenecked much in the games you play, and you can get a new cpu down the line when your prefer like you said.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This is a terrible time to buy any dGPU over £300~£400. The current generation is basically overpriced,so the last generation can be sold at pandemic pricing. This can be shown by dGPU sales massively collapsing. For example the RTX4070TI for around £800~£900,if going by previous generations is more an RTX4060/RTX4060TI and shouldn't be above £500,especially with only 12GB of VRAM. It uses the third tier AD104(AD102>AD103>AD104),which in many ways would make it the GTX1060(GP106,which was after the GP102 and GP104) of the current generation.

The RX7900XT should be more like an RX7800XT/RX7800 and should be under £600. I have a feeling its best to wait. We saw that with Turing,the Super refreshes redeemed it a bit,and I think this is what will probably happen with the current releases. Many Turing owners,probably wished they waited for the Super refreshes. AMD has not even properly released its entire range. So we have not seen how the RX7800XT and RX7800 look like either.

Honestly,I would wait another 6~12 months,or pick up an RX6600 8GB for around £240~£250,or RX6650XT 8GB for under £300(if you shop around):

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6650-xt-gaming-x/images/relative-performance_2560-1440.png

The RX6600 is around twice the speed of the GTX1060 and the RX6650XT around 2.4X the speed. If you are lucky you might find an RX6700 non-XT 10GB or RX6700XT 12GB for just above £300. The RX6700XT should be close to 3X the speed of your GTX1060. Your PSU would easily run any of them.

 

[wanderer89]

a little over your budget but 2 birds with 1 stone and all that

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Enjoy the FPS

Oh you're a bad person! Although very very tempting haha.

I'd say just pick up a 7900xtx pulse if your budget is £1k. You shouldn't be bottlenecked much in the games you play, and you can get a new cpu down the line when your prefer like you said.

Definitely leaning that way tbh.

This is a terrible time to buy any dGPU over £300~£400. The current generation is basically overpriced,so the last generation can be sold at pandemic pricing. This can be shown by dGPU sales massively collapsing. For example the RTX4070TI for around £800~£900,if going by previous generations is more an RTX4060/RTX4060TI and shouldn't be above £500,especially with only 12GB of VRAM. It uses the third tier AD104(AD102>AD103>AD104),which in many ways would make it the GTX1060(GP106,which was after the GP102 and GP104) of the current generation.

The RX7900XT should be more like an RX7800XT/RX7800 and should be under £600. I have a feeling its best to wait. We saw that with Turing,the Super refreshes redeemed it a bit,and I think this is what will probably happen with the current releases. Many Turing owners,probably wished they waited for the Super refreshes. AMD has not even properly released its entire range. So we have not seen how the RX7800XT and RX7800 look like either.

Honestly,I would wait another 6~12 months,or pick up an RX6600 8GB for around £240~£250,or RX6650XT 8GB for under £300(if you shop around):

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6650-xt-gaming-x/images/relative-performance_2560-1440.png

The RX6600 is around twice the speed of the GTX1060 and the RX6650XT around 2.4X the speed. If you are lucky you might find an RX6700 non-XT 10GB or RX6700XT 12GB for just above £300. The RX6700XT should be close to 3X the speed of your GTX1060. Your PSU would easily run any of them.

I get what you're saying but isn't it a bit redundant? Spending £250 to last a couple of years or get something that will probably last me another 6/7. Or am I just being stupid about that?

 

[JediFragger]

 

[JediFragger]

27" 1440p/180hz monitor, do want to upgrade to potentially UW or even 4K in near future though.

Go UW m8 when you switch, 4k is still a *serious* bitch on gfx power.

 

[JediFragger]

I'd say just pick up a 7900xtx pulse if your budget is £1k. You shouldn't be bottlenecked much in the games you play, and you can get a new cpu down the line when your prefer like you said.

Good shout tbh, then slap in a 5800X3D down the line for a good boost. Job done.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I get what you're saying but isn't it a bit redundant? Spending £250 to last a couple of years or get something that will probably last me another 6/7. Or am I just being stupid about that?

WRT to the RX7900XT and RTX4070TI,the only advantage of the latter is better RT,but its slower in rasterised performance and 12GB of VRAM does not inspire much confidence. Also,some of these newer cards are showing certain CPU limitations too,especially the Nvidia ones(at least the RTX4090 was).

But this generation is one of the worst performance/pound generational uplifts since Turing V1.The Pascal generation(GTX1060) and the preceding Maxwell generation both had very solid price/performance improvements.Basically ideally you should have upgraded a few months ago,as there were some decent deals on dGPUs(there were RX6800 16GB cards for under £500 IIRC).

The Nvidia cards at under £1000,ie,the RTX4070TI has not got enough VRAM(and basically should be a £500 card at best),but JHH,the CEO of Nvidia,apparently admitted they priced the generation high so they could sell the older generation of dGPUs at the pandemic pricing(which meant the prices are higher than RRP). This is the result:

Global PC shipments collapsed 28% in Q4: Gartner

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There is a huge inventory of unsold dGPUs building up:

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AMD just decided to slightly undercut Nvidia. The RX7900XT itself,by the last generation classifications,is more akin to the RX6800 which was priced at under £600. They just inflated the prices upwards. It's already fallen £100 due to poor sales,and there are pictures of retailers full of unsold RTX4070TI cards too,which seems to not doing much better.

So,what is most likely going to happen,is with dGPU sales plummeting,at some point both companies will need to refresh the models or price reduce their line-ups. This is what happened with Turing V2. It's your money in the end,but I think unless you are the sort which is really going for an RTX4090,I would just wait honestly. But at least someone needs to tell you if you are unaware of what is happening.