A question for php devs who work for a company

UncleRuckus · 8 Apr 2011 at 13:40

Hi chaps, just wondering if and which php frameworks you use for your projects?
Or do you have your own in-house codebase?

I'm asking as I have I'm pretty competent at php but I am wondering if it would be something that would be useful for me to learn for potential employment?

Any comments and suggestions welcome.

fez · 8 Apr 2011 at 17:27

Zend is pretty good, version 2.0 is supposed to be coming out in the next few months which should be good as well. Big following and a good framework to build larger sites around.

The current version isn't quite as light weight as it could be but for a project of a reasonable size its no burden. Version 2.0 should make it much more modular and easier to implement in non standard ways such as cut down functionality.

FabienO · 8 Apr 2011 at 17:44

Zend is more professional methinks. Codeigniter is better as a smaller but well done framework. I use codeigniter every now and then just for kicks. But apparently a lot of PHP people aim to become zend qualified.

8t10 · 8 Apr 2011 at 18:04

Agency down the road use Symfony.

UncleRuckus · 8 Apr 2011 at 18:53

A question about zend server I assume you have to use this for zend framework to run correctly? If this is the case is zend server quiet common to get from hosting companies?

Or is Zend server something else completely different?

fez · 8 Apr 2011 at 22:26

Zend server is something else, its all a bit confusing but there is zend the company which do certifications and stuff, then theres the framework which is what you want to download. Its all php so you just include certain files and follow the correct structure and away you go.

just go here http://framework.zend.com/download/latest

and download the minimal or standard with zend server.

UncleRuckus · 9 Apr 2011 at 01:00

Thanks for that.

I have never used an MVC before is there anything I should be aware of when coding in this manor? Will I have to think about writing classes in a different way?

FabienO · 9 Apr 2011 at 01:57

Should be fine, they're just there to speed up the work.

Here's a quick "Get Started" for Codeigniter. And here's a bunch of videos tutorials.

It's not Zend but it's still a great MVC. Very popular.

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 00:18

Thanks Fabien, I think I shall weigh up which one I should use in my mind and then probably just stick to one.

RobH · 10 Apr 2011 at 00:34

We use Zend where I work for a couple of projects. Zend Server is a great way to get up and running with Zend Framework as it comes bundled with everything such as Apache and is preconfigured with the framework.

Zend server is not required for the Zend framework, you can stick a Zend Framework project on a bog standard PHP host as long as you have a copy of the framework in your application include directory.

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 01:23

RobH said:
We use Zend where I work for a couple of projects. Zend Server is a great way to get up and running with Zend Framework as it comes bundled with everything such as Apache and is preconfigured with the framework.

Zend server is not required for the Zend framework, you can stick a Zend Framework project on a bog standard PHP host as long as you have a copy of the framework in your application include directory.

Thanks Rob, what hosting company do you use for the zend server when the project goes live and what do you use when not using Zend?

RobH · 10 Apr 2011 at 02:28

UncleRuckus said:
Thanks Rob, what hosting company do you use for the zend server when the project goes live and what do you use when not using Zend?

We actually use a hosted cloud server running Ubuntu with the Zend Framework installed, the project is then served up by the main Apache instance we run on them which is also serving up our main application. The Zend Framework PHP stuff is an extension of our main application which is written in python and currently in a legacy python framework which we are supporting.

I would imagine pretty much any decent host with PHP support should be able to support the Zend Framework, after all it's only a collection of PHP files that you include.

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 02:34

RobH said:
We actually use a hosted cloud server running Ubuntu with the Zend Framework installed, the project is then served up by the main Apache instance we run on them which is also serving up our main application. The Zend Framework PHP stuff is an extension of our main application which is written in python and currently in a legacy python framework which we are supporting.

I would imagine pretty much any decent host with PHP support should be able to support the Zend Framework, after all it's only a collection of PHP files that you include.

Impressive! Makes my brain bleed

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 18:19

Right I decided to download Zend Server CE as it turned out xampp had an old version of zend framework installed and I didn't want to bugger up my installation. Is there a way to share my httpd-vhost from xampp with zend, how would I point to it?

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 19:20

Right well that's proving to be a pain in the butt, I shall just split my projects accordingly instead of forcing them to share files

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 19:44

Yep sorted now I have Zend running on each virtual host setup I create, went smoother than expected and all the includes are out of the document tree too.

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 20:27

This Zend server is incredibly good! Now for the framework.

fez · 10 Apr 2011 at 20:32

Yeah, you can just stick the library directory somewhere on a server and put that path into your include path and it will be available in all your future projects you decide to use zend for. There are some command line tools that you can install as well to allow you to create new project structures.

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 21:03

Strange I cannot access phpmyadmin if I goto http://zend-test.local/phpmyadmin/ any ideas?

UncleRuckus · 10 Apr 2011 at 21:21

Ah It's one of two things either it didn't install with the typical installation or as I'm running phpmyadmin with xampp it's not letting me have to versions so I will have to running phpmyadmin via xampp then boot zend server.

Reinstalling now...