A single temporary average speed camera (M62 Eastbound M60 junction)

Redgie · 10 Jun 2015 at 12:05

So in the past few weeks / months, a single average speed camera has been placed on the side of the M26 Eastbound right before the M60 junction turnoff. By the looks of it the average speed cameras continue on the M60 (probably during the smart motorway stuff) which makes sense. The limit for said camera is on a temporary set of signs showing 50mph.

Here's the thing though, the camera has only 3 individual camera on it, on a section of motorway where the road is splitting into the M60 turn off and the M602 continuation into Manchester. This section has 4 lanes, not 3. The other problem is that this stretch of the M62 does not have any roadworks going on, nor any other reason for people to slow down.

My assumption is that the camera has been put up earlier than it should have been, and then some numpty has put signs on the M62 when they shouldn't have. The problem is that this is causing motorists to slam on the brakes from 70+ to 50 every day, causing no end of issues especially at rush hour. The other side even has signs (even though there are no cameras) which again causes issues travelling Westbound.

So a few questions:
- Is my assumption right, is it just a case of signs in the wrong place?
- Has anybody else seen the camera and have any other feedback?
- Can you even get a speeding ticket from a single average speed camera (is it just then effectively a standard speeding camera)?

Cheers

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UPDATE: From the sounds of it, the speed limits are there to ensure those leaving to and joining from the M60 (which has a 50mph limit due to the implementation of "smart" motorways) are doing so at the same speed as everyone else. In addition, only one average speed camera will do no harm.

Redgie · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:17

Hmm, here's hoping!

Redgie · 11 Jun 2015 at 07:46

From the sounds of it, the speed limits are there to ensure those leaving to and joining from the M60 (which has a 50mph limit due to the implementation of "smart" motorways) are doing so at the same speed as everyone else. In addition, only one average speed camera will do no harm.

Thanks for the info everyone, I was afraid this predominantly southern forum would fail me on this

Redgie · 12 Jun 2015 at 11:27

R B Customs said:
he's not talking about merge in turn though; he's talking about someone stopping in lane 3 to try and get into lane 2. the merging in turn happened ages ago and lane 3 is for traffic going ahead only. when you refer to someone not knowing how 'merge in turn' works it's usually when there's one distinctly empty lane that people (correctly) go down to get to the head of the merge. In this case he's talking about when both lanes are full and ther'es no merging in turn going to be happening.

I used to drive down the M602 from manc' to get to the M60 and there's a similar problem there with people stopping in lane 2 to try and push into lane 1. The traffic is very bad there and there's an accident just about every day as a result. I've stopped going that way now as it's so bad.

I only tend to go thatway now if I leave work late so that's it's quiet, but the other night I had Ikea on my mind and just forgot to take the exit so continued onto what turns into the M62 to liverpool (ikea!) - just after the M60 junction there's 50MPH signs with average speedcheck signs and I've gone flying through them twice now but there's no cameras and there's only one sign iirc. it looks like an error to me but I assume this is the patch of road you're talking about.

[edit]
is it here?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4D61Mr8_oWy8Zfd8-whbnw!2e0
or the other direction?

Yep that's the spot, in both directions