A Temporary Speed Camera Collects over £1,000,000

SexyGreyFox · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:21

A temporary speed camera got £1,088,000 and gave 50,000 points to 18,000 speeding motorists in a year and six months on the M62 near Leeds.

The temporary camera was placed due to road-works where the speed limit was dropped from 70mph to 50 mph.

People objected to the “insane amount of money” and said that road works’ speed cameras distracted drivers.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=14403

Gilly · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:23

Thats the one thing I can't abide. I'm glad all those people got stung. Speeding through roadworks on a motorway where there's people working (and they were working overnight too) is as bad as speeding through inner city 20 zones.

Davey_Pitch · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:24

Gilly said:
Thats the one thing I can't abide. I'm glad all those people got stung. Speeding through roadworks on a motorway where there's people working (and they were working overnight too) is as bad as speeding through inner city 20 zones.

I would have to agree there. I do drive fast, but I go the limit through the roadworks purely for the safety of people working there.

GlasgowTitan · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:25

Its only an insane amount of money because an insane amount of drivers decided to speed through the restriction...

Spud21 · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:26

Don't mind it when they are working tbh, although roud this way it seems as if we get the roadworks but nobody ever seems to eb doing any work on them, they must be as they do get done (eventually) but there were roadworks on the m/way round here not that long ago and i drove past them at every concievable time, early morning, mid morning, afternoon, evening, night, never saw one workman doing any work :confused:

MoNkeE · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:35

Gilly said:
Thats the one thing I can't abide. I'm glad all those people got stung. Speeding through roadworks on a motorway where there's people working (and they were working overnight too) is as bad as speeding through inner city 20 zones.

If only everyone took this mentalility. I work for A-one Integrated Highways Services, and if you live in the North East and drive on the A1 etc, you'll see our chaps. Fortunately, none of our people have been hit.

-RaZ

[TW]Fox · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:44

Gilly said:
Thats the one thing I can't abide. I'm glad all those people got stung. Speeding through roadworks on a motorway where there's people working (and they were working overnight too) is as bad as speeding through inner city 20 zones.

I disagree - I always adhere to the limits but only becuase I value my license. A typical motorway roadworks has lanes the same size as they normally are - the chances of a car drifting from one lane into the roadworks and thus colliding with workers is the same as somebody casually drifing into the barrier from the outside lane - ie virtually zero.

I support restrictions in contraflows or where there are narrow lanes, but this is often not the case.

Berger · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:45

I saw someone get stung in the ones on the M56 recently (40mph) he came past me doing probably 65ish, you can see the cameras from a mile off as well (all gatsos) straight through, two flashes, didnt slow down at all.

Have to wonder why though, its pretty obvious that its roadworks, there are enough signs put up and you cant miss them! Its a bit of a drag as its quite a long section thats slow, but it will be done eventually and will be a lot better!

JayMax · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:45

Road gangs and even moreso the traffic management guys take a lot of a risk working on a live motorway lane, even with the cones etc. I personally have worked with two traffic guys who've died off being clipped/mown down by motorists on the mobile/lack of attention/carelessness etc. A needless waste of life due to ignorant road users.

Rotty · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:47

Davey_Pitch said:
I would have to agree there. I do drive fast, but I go the limit through the roadworks purely for the safety of people working there.

that and the fact that your car is flat out at 40 :eek:

I thought about deleting this on the grounds that it is totally unjust , but after due deliberation the fact that I have had 12+ bottles of Magners has deemed that it should stay

cheets64 · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:50

Gilly said:
Thats the one thing I can't abide. I'm glad all those people got stung. Speeding through roadworks on a motorway where there's people working (and they were working overnight too) is as bad as speeding through inner city 20 zones.

I argee aswell, you stick to 50 in your lane and you get some wise arse trying to sneak up doing 60+, speeding at roadworks is stupid, traffic is built up, there is less room due to narrowed lanes and nowhere to stop if there is an accident.

MoNkeE · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:50

[TW]Fox said:
I disagree - I always adhere to the limits but only becuase I value my license. A typical motorway roadworks has lanes the same size as they normally are - the chances of a car drifting from one lane into the roadworks and thus colliding with workers is the same as somebody casually drifing into the barrier from the outside lane - ie virtually zero.

I support restrictions in contraflows or where there are narrow lanes, but this is often not the case.

It's not that simple. It's not just people drifting out. We've had a report in the past from one of the other Areas (the road network is divided into Areas for our work) where a woman was on anti-depressants which made her sleepy - she hadn't been told not to drive with them. She was all emotional, lost control of the car and went into some road works. Three people were killed - two workers, and the driver.

You want to know how dangerous it is? The woman died from one of the men being hit, who then proceeded to fly through the air and land on top of the same car, crushing the roof and causing head injuries to her.

It's horrific. It's not about your license, it's about other people's lifes.

-RaZ

benjo plz. · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:50

Berger said:
I saw someone get stung in the ones on the M56 recently (40mph) he came past me doing probably 65ish, you can see the cameras from a mile off as well (all gatsos) straight through, two flashes, didnt slow down at all.

Foreign? afaik their are no current arrangements to fine foreign registered vehicles.

[TW]Fox · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:52

MoNkeE said:
It's not that simple. It's not just people drifting out. We've had a report in the past from one of the other Areas (the road network is divided into Areas for our work) where a woman was on anti-depressants which made her sleepy - she hadn't been told not to drive with them. She was all emotional, lost control of the car and went into some road works. Three people were killed - two workers, and the driver.

And had she not been in roadworks at the time, she'd have drifted across into another lane and crashed that way, perhaps taking out other cars. Should we therefore enforce a 50mph speed limit on all Motorways just incase?

Unless the lanes are reduced in size, I don't think the limit serves any purpose other than generation of revenue through speed cameras.

Narrow lanes? Sure - we need a limit. You can't go bombing through at 70 when there is significantly less space than there normally is.

But normal sized lanes? Sorry, I just don't buy it.

Rotty · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:54

[TW]Fox said:
You can't go bombing through at 70 when there is significantly less space than there normally is.

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yes I can, I drive a BMW , do you not understand how these things work ? :mad:

MoNkeE · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:56

There's a lot of buts and ifs to an argument like this, so I'd expect you to defend your speed by the "anything can happen anywhere anyway" clause.

Fact is, if you hit cones - as she did - it's much harder to control your car - and the cones do make the roads narrower (if only a tiny bit in some occasions).

There's also the fact that something can go wrong on a building site. What if there's a bridge being hydroblasted and a piece of concrete gets thrown onto the road? Moving at a slower speed may well stop the impact from being as serious. There's also the fact that if something unexpectantly rolls out on to the road, people have more time to react.

-RaZ

Gilly · 22 Apr 2006 at 00:57

[TW]Fox said:
I disagree - I always adhere to the limits but only becuase I value my license. A typical motorway roadworks has lanes the same size as they normally are - the chances of a car drifting from one lane into the roadworks and thus colliding with workers is the same as somebody casually drifing into the barrier from the outside lane - ie virtually zero.

Disagree all you want. Why do you think pedestrian zones have lower speed restrictions than areas you don't expect people to be walking about?

The very presence of people walking around on motorways, whether coned off or not, should say to people don't speed. Anyone that doesn't think that way should get off the road.

[TW]Fox · 22 Apr 2006 at 01:01

Gilly said:
Disagree all you want. Why do you think pedestrian zones have lower speed restrictions than areas you don't expect people to be walking about?

When did you last find a set of roadworks with people walking around in the carriageway rather than the coned off area? Pedestrian zones have pedestrians who could, at any time, step out.

Roadworks do not have this. Infact most of the time the central reservation seperates traffic from workers, although obviously there are exceptions.

The very presence of people walking around on motorways, whether coned off or not, should say to people don't speed. Anyone that doesn't think that way should get off the road.

Right so I should 'get off the road' becuase I disagree with (note, I said disagree with rather than not adhere to. I never speed in roadworks but purely becuase I care about my license not becuase I think it's dangerous) roadwork speed limits? Don't be so dramatic.

Why don't we make country lanes 50 limits? You can legally do 60 on there, and you could turn the corner at any time to find a pedestrian actually walking in the road, yet 60 is legal there but not on a Motorway?

Zip · 22 Apr 2006 at 01:03

[TW]Fox said:
And had she not been in roadworks at the time, she'd have drifted across into another lane and crashed that way, perhaps taking out other cars. Should we therefore enforce a 50mph speed limit on all Motorways just incase?

Unless the lanes are reduced in size, I don't think the limit serves any purpose other than generation of revenue through speed cameras.

Narrow lanes? Sure - we need a limit. You can't go bombing through at 70 when there is significantly less space than there normally is.

But normal sized lanes? Sorry, I just don't buy it.

People in cars atleast have some protection around them.
The road workers dont have any protection and they can and will get injured from a bump from a car that would normaly just dent another car.

TBH thats the stupidist post i think you have ever done

Fulcrum · 22 Apr 2006 at 01:05

Last time I was on the M5, I was down to 30. You should have seen the queue behind me

Theres definetly a few cameras, I wasnt sure if I'd been gotten by some specs via cctv type cameras but luckly they werent doing total overkill that day.
Not one worker in sight mind, it was early sunday morning. Saw quite a few police cars + motorcycles going the other way though