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a true statement from Nvidia?

NP's :)

P.S, I would love to see the specs of some of the peeps who complain about GPU's been kinda static now, bet 99% of them dont/wont buy a Flasgship card, ;).
 
Nymins said:
He means stewart.r@ntlwo i think :D
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Ooh :P
helmutcheese said:
Lets get something 100% STRAIGHT, I was posting about Nickolai's comments in post #3 not the OP's.

I should have quoted him so my own mistake.

Hope this clears it up.
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Sure, i get your point better then :)

I feel really frustrated at the way Nvidia is handling the situation, wish they would just release the next 8800GTX-like high end magic card that'll run Crysis respectacbly + the games coming out so people won't be left asking the same questions all the time. But yeah that is essentially ATIs fault, they need to make up another lie like the HD2900 to get Nvidia producing cards.
 
I'm only gonna upgrade my amd6000 when I can see real world benefits for me, not taking 20secs less to unzip a 7GB file and since even Supreme Commander isnt much quicker on a Q6600 compared with the newer core2duo's.
 
Thats party true at stock mate, as the Intels are mostly are slower mhz thans your CPU apart from newer C2D's.

Changes as you overclock though and I had all AMD's from 2001 till AMD X2 6000 but Mobo fried as new (Crosshair).
 
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Yeah I wasn't trying to say a 3ghz amd6000 competes with the q6000 at the same clock, but the c2d 8400 beats both by quite a bit at 3ghz. Then again it should, its newer, I just want a similar improvement as going from single to dual core. I'm picky :D Especially as by then Ill probably be doing CPU RAM and mobo at the same time. When you see how easy its been for some people to get 3.6ghz with the quads you think the Q9000 range would come at this speed at stock. Although they dont have any competition in the enthusiast market atm.
 
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Nymins said:
Really you need a decent CPU to go with a decent GPU. Using a P4 2.8Ghz cpu with a 9800GX2 will make games run worse than someone with a C2D 2.8ghz cpu with an 8800GTS. A crap CPU will bottleneck a good GPU.
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well i had a amd 4400 dual core, and now a Q6600, using the 8800GT both times, the difference is about 5 -10fps maximum. its all about the graphics really for most games, only game ive played which is really cpu intensive is supreme commander, but i prefer command and conquer 3 to it, and i play neither anymore so..

therefore your quote i would say is wrong.. the p4 with 9800X2 will be faster, id think switching between those processors and keeping GPU would make 1-4 fps difference max, if any
 
From my experience, a good gpu is better than a good cpu but they really should be of the same target tier, my old 4400+ was great and gave very high and smooth fps with my gtx but my quad oc'd gave me a massive boost over the 4400+.
 
helmutcheese said:
NP's :)

P.S, I would love to see the specs of some of the peeps who complain about GPU's been kinda static now, bet 99% of them dont/wont buy a Flasgship card, ;).
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oh dear . . .
i complain about Nvidia's staticness and my spec is;
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Asus P5E
Patriot DDR2 1100mhz 4 4 4 12
HD3870
X2 on its way

pretty low end isn't it. . .

and yes if Nvidia released a true next gen it would mean 8800GT prices for example would drop similar to the x2 release and the GTX (i think the ocuk one used to be £300 whereas now its £226) meaning someone could buy a GT and play anything except crysis quite respectably at a lower price

and i dont understand why Nvidia would be milking the 8800 series so much anyways if they continued to crank out new and better cards surely it would drive AMD/Ati to sell theirs at ever cheaper prices to make for competition basically running them dry.
 
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platinum87 said:
well i had a amd 4400 dual core, and now a Q6600, using the 8800GT both times, the difference is about 5 -10fps maximum. its all about the graphics really for most games, only game ive played which is really cpu intensive is supreme commander, but i prefer command and conquer 3 to it, and i play neither anymore so..

therefore your quote i would say is wrong.. the p4 with 9800X2 will be faster, id think switching between those processors and keeping GPU would make 1-4 fps difference max, if any
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The AMD 4400 Dual Core is a good processor. There isn't any real difference using Quad Core in most games as people will tell you. That AMD you had is about the same as a C2D E4300, just a bit worse maybe. You wouldn't notice difference in frame rate going for a Dual Core to a Quad Core in a lot of games.

Using a P4 with the 9800GX2 or 8800 series will have a huge effect on performance as the majority of games are not just dependant on one thing. As stated FEAR is different because it is heavily GPU dependant.
 
If the 8800 series is running every thing fine (crysis is crap) then why even bother releasing the 9800 piece of poop. Skip it and wait for the next gen not 2 year old tech
 
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