A very small fridge cooler ?

scotslad

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I know there are extreme ways of using crazy methods to cool overclocked cpu's but why O why hasn't a single company yet came up with a simple idea of making a cooler that works exactly like a normal Fridge but in a tiny version, just large enough to clip on as a heatsink ?

I can understand there would be an outcry from 100's of other companies about this that are trying to sell fans and liquid cooling etc, but in reality it is easily able to do and is also able to be manufactured too somehow I am sure.

Think about it, no more dust = no more fans or dust filters, or possibly maybe a fan for the ram and dust filters because of this, but that is nothing compared to the absolute mess pc's are in today and that is even ones that aren't overclocked either, dust is just a nightmare, and all those cables etc, nightmare too.

Stick a tiny fridge on a cpu, overclock it to the extremes if you like, no dust no nothing apart from the fan blowing the air over the ram and the fans in the graphics card, but as I said, that is a tiny price to pay for just a little dust that may only need cleaned once in 6 months etc, but think about what you would gain at the other end of the scale with the fridge on the cpu, think about it ;)

I am really surprised to this day that a company has not done this yet.

Just wanted to post my thoughts up to see what others think :)
 
trouble is the condensation you'd get,with any refrigeration

could always move to the north pole?:p

or intel could stop cheaping out on thermal paste and use solder:mad:
 
d_brennen said:
Never heard of liquid nitrogen OP?

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yes course I have, but I did mention in the first post that that is an extreme and to me crazy method, and @ the other user that mentioned condensation, they could simply develop something that evaporates that condensation or something else etc.

Anyways, I am not here to argue about this at all, I was only asking a question that I don't remember someone asking before, that's all, maybe other people have asked and I missed it, but anyway, I raise the question again in that case ;)
 
d_brennen said:
Putting a PC in a fridge has been a question asked since the dawn of time, it gets the same answers too :D
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why doesn't a company build something like I am saying then rather than having us all do the opposite with fans and things we hate ?

I know if I had the money to try and develop such a thing then I would and I would storm the market no doubts about that, I still cant understand though why as you say "since time dawned" that a company hasn't developed a device like I mentioned :eek:

We don't even need or want silly dangerous liquid nitro etc, you just need like I said, then people would be able to chill either a non overclocked cpu or get a very good clock on a cpu (their choice) and have no other cooling source required, I would imagine that it wouldn't even cost hardly any money to run it either because of the size of it.

I think personally that it is more than possible but manufacturers just wont do it because they know fine well they can make far more money from us doing as they are doing just now, again just my opinon ;)
 
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Fridges work by being closed and extracting heat energy. You put some hot components in a sealed box and what happens? Lets not even get into condensation on electronics :)
 
d_brennen said:
Fridges work by being closed and extracting heat energy. You put some hot components in a sealed box and what happens? Lets not even get into condensation on electronics :)
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errrm, maybe same as you can put a red hot cooked pot of meat into a fridge just now and if it is a modern fridge it deals with it by coping, I.E - it switches itself on and cools the fridge back down, that is highly recommended by the way if you ever cook meals and are not sure if you should let things cool before putting into fridge, lol, not that that has got anything to do with what we are on about but that is a fact that you should get food sealed in a container of some sort and into a cold fridge asap to stop the chance of germs contaminating the food, don't believe me read it up, lol, but that's way off subject.

But yea, same principle as having a hot item in a fridge like a cooking CPU, lol ;)
 
The pot of meat is hot but it isn't generating heat, the heat transfer element of the fridge is able to overcome the heat radiated by the pot over time (the ambient temp of the fridge goes up when you put hot stuff in, by how much depends on the energy contained in the items, the volume of the fridge and it's capacity to shift heat), a ~100w+ CPU and possibly 300w GPU are a different kettle of fish.

e: Then there is the energy running cost of the refrigeration versus a couple of watts on high RPM fans...

e2: All the stuff is readily available, try it out and post your findings! :D
 
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but I know you get my method of thinking though, and I know exactly what you mean too, my point is though, if a company really wanted to come up with a solution I bet you any money they could quickly, infact they will already have done so I could bet.
 
Its already done look at phase change units which are basically the same principles with a way (peltier) to avoid the condensation problems.
 
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Rroff said:
Its already done look at phase change units which are basically the same principles with a way (peltier) to avoid the condensation problems.
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yea I just had a look around the internet there mate cheers, I see that there are some nice looking bits of kits available already, hmmmm :)

I watched some videos on youtube but the guys had them all setup very messy with cables and tubes everywhere etc, lol, didn't like that very much.

But there was another place I was looking at and this is one guys set up, now someone tell me this isn't a real great piece of kit man, not only in looks but also into the 5G'z too easy, very nice, I still think if the manufacturers really got behind this though they could come up with something maybe half the size and half the effort too, its still good though.

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scotslad said:
I know there are extreme ways of using crazy methods to cool overclocked cpu's but why O why hasn't a single company yet came up with a simple idea of making a cooler that works exactly like a normal Fridge but in a tiny version, just large enough to clip on as a heatsink ?
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It's been done but it's considered obsolete technology these days, a company called Vapochill used to make units and entire cases with the technology but it sorta died out when water cooling became mainstream. I mean what's the point of having a 2+ GHz CPU overclock when your GPU is still on air? you can just run an entire WC loop through a fish tank chiller and get the same CPU clock plus GPU/MB cooling.
 
Yes problem is that constantly cooling down something will take a ton of energy, way more than what heating up stuff does. And usually needs an ingredient, like liquid nitrogen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_freezing

Now you are wondering, why is it related? Because of a constant 200W-300W heat load you would have to have something working the opposite effect 24/7 to keep that temperature in check.. It's easier just to expel that heat instead with airflow instead of trying to nullify it.
 
Fridges don't work like that. You couldn't put any significant kind of heat source in a fridge and have it cool it down.
 
Problem with using refrigeration as a cooler* you need the space and put up with extra noise and also the extra energy being used.

*not necessarily using it to get negative numbers but reasonable temps.
 
kaku said:
Fridges don't work like that. You couldn't put any significant kind of heat source in a fridge and have it cool it down.
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As far as I know all modern day fridges do and can cope with that kind of circumstance mate, infact as I mentioned earlier I think I said that it is a well known fact with fridge manufacturers and chefs etc that the sooner you get food that is cooked straight from the cooker/oven etc, seal it up straight away in a container or something like that sealed good and then bang it right into the fridge, the food is at far less risk of picking up any germs then and the fridge automatically copes with it, well modern day fridges have been easily able to do that for years, maybe not ones from 20 years ago though, lol, if you read up about it you'll see, only reason why I know is because I am very much into keeping newly cooked food as clean and hygienic as possible and that is why I read it up myself, its too dodgy to leave fresh hot cooked food laying around opened to germs.

Anyway, lol, that's not really what we are on about here, well I suppose it kinda is but on a far far smaller scale etc, lol.

I was just thinking that some manufacturer would have a contraption they supplied or could make that simply clipped/screwed onto the cpu like we do just now with the coolers available, it seems like there are ones currently available such as the ones mentioned earlier and the one I put a photo up of, but to me they are still a bit big but at same time I guess maybe they have to be a certain size for obvious reasons.

I still think those things are an excellent idea though especially for overclocking cpu's or not and the fact that there would be hardly any dust at all in your system would be amazing, I would be more than happy to pay the electricity costs to run that type of thing per year even if its going to cost me say £50 per year or so to do that, ohh that thought of no dust excites me, lol, or very little dust even as compared to way it is now.

I don't know about you guys, but my pc base unit is very heavy and having to lift it from the floor to a work surface to maintain it every now and then just does my head in never mind my knees, back and my ever weakening heart these days, lol. :p
 
It would have to run for a while to be effective. You don't put warm food in the fridge and get it instantly chilled.
Ever felt the back of a fridge? Its warm right? You would be expending that heat into your case and the noise it creates would be awful.
Fridges use motors and gases to chill and are the size they are for a reason. Case sized would be the smallest as you would have to enough pass the whole build. If it was that good an idea, it would still be used.

I'll stick with my nice quiet air cooler thanks.
 
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