A8N32-SLI - High CPU temps with FX-57?

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Guys

I’ve just upgraded my mobo from an Asus A8N-SLI Premium to an A8N32-SLI, I’ve also decided to swap the stock CPU cooler for an Asetek VapoChill Extreme Performance item.

My spec is as follows;

Coolermaster Case with rear fan
Enermax Noisetaker 470W PSU
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe (Gamer) Motherboard
AMD FX-57 CPU
Asetek VapoChill Extreme Performance CPU Cooler
Crucial Ballistix 4 x 512MB (DDR500)
Raptor 74GB SATA-II HD
XFX Geforce 7800GTX 512MB

Using Asus Probe II utility, at times the CPU can easily reach 60 degrees, this seems hot considering the CPU cooler I am using, are any other A8N32-SLI users getting these temps at load? The motherboard temps tend to stick to around 45-50 degrees also.

I have also noticed that the in-built RealTek sound device has crackly sound?

Thanks
 
Hiya,

With regards to the CPU temp, the A8N32-SLI is known for overvolting by approx 0.06v I believe. I was suffering with heat problems myself with my (stock cooled) X2 4400+ due to it running my CPU at near enough 1.4v. I disabled Cool & Quiet in the bios so I was able to manually change the cpu voltage and i found that 1.285v gave pretty close to the default 1.35v and that did drop the temps for me a noticeable amount. Hope thats of some help

Thanks,

Scott
 
Without meaning to sound patronising, have you got the Asetek mounted correctly? It has to go a specific way, it's not flexible.
 
Scott – thanks for the response and tip, I will try to lower the CPU voltage as you suggested and let you know if it had an effect on my CPU temps. Yes you are right, this board sure does run hot even when idle!

Arcane – That’s not patronising at all, the instructions that came with the cooler were pretty crap (just brief diagrams on the packaging) but I did realise that the fan (when board is mounted vertical like mine) has to point downwards whilst the cooler fin matrix needs to point upward. Do you think these coolers are any good? I was not impressed with the build quality of the plastic shroud the fan connects to, very cheap and flimsy.

Nad
 
Sorry to change topic but you mentioned the default temp is 1.35.
Is this right ? I always though the default temp for the FX57 was 1.4.

I use cool and quiet, and have my voltage when set to auto reads around 1.14 in Asus Probe 2 when idle, and under load the voltage climes to around 1.37. So I thought my mobo was undervolting as I figured the load voltage should be 1.4.
Am I completely off here ?

Anyway I upped the voltage to 1.4125, and now my load voltage is between 1.39 and 1.41 under load. This is enough to allow me to overclock my FX57 to 3080mhz. Basically 220fsb, and my memory still runs fine at 2325 1T. Idle cpu temp is in low 30's, and I have yet to see it hit 50 under load.
Is there a better way to overclock this FX57 ?
 
I take it the cooler you have is the Vapochill Micro as sold by OCUK? The Asetek wording is new to me so I may be on the wrong track. I bought one of the Vapochill Micro coolers for my new Opteron on the basis that it appeared to be both economical and effective, however my findings were that it was neither as it was money wasted on a pile of pants. I may have got a faulty one but even with a mild overclock on stock voltages I was getting reported temps of 72c under load. I thought this may have been due to a faulty IHS so removed this and tried again with the same results. I now have a ThermalTake Big Typhoon and I've never seen temps above 40c. My advice ditch the cooler ..... (and replace with something better).
 
I agree with Pieeater, I didn't have any luck with the Asetek either. Admittedly I mounted it the wrong way around first of all :D , but the thing was noisy and didn't do a very good job even when fitted correctly. I've tried a few hsf's; Thermaltake K8, Zalman 7000, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64, Asetek Micro Chill Extreme and a Zalman 9500, overall the 9500 easily get's my vote. It cools really well, is easy to fit and doesn't weigh so much that you're paranoid about it pulling the CPU out of it's socket. I've heard good things about the Big Typhoon's performance although it's really heavy, 815g?
 
60c at idle is a bit too much definatly sounds like its not mounted right or too much artic silver/with quiet and cool i idle around 35-40c at 1ghz.....about 55-65c max at load after 2-3hour bf2 sessions at 2.2ghz/x2-4400 speeds but it does say max is about 85-95c but ive noticed it can switch off around 70-75c even cos ive tried going passive before.

another issue ive noticed you say is that your mainboard/system temps are high 45-50c which is what i was getting with my passive a8n abit board also, in fact it worried me cos after 2-3 hours of bf2 gaming it would be in the red and say 55c system temp.....

i think these passive heatsink/pipe tech arent the best but its quite possible it requires some active cooling i dont think the nforce4 ultra chipset was suppose to be ever passive, i have a temp dfi nforce ultra mainboard and the chipset is almost plastic feel getting 45 idle temps and thats with that whinney little speedy fan on top also, so its bit hard to say id say your mainboard/system temps are ok but just watch it after a gaming session.

on a side note it does say they can go up to 70c max before shutdown....
 
Think about investing in an A/C Freezer 64 pro for £20. Buy a better exhaust fan though while you are there. That is really where the problem lies. Good luck.
 
mobo temp seems about standard without good case cooling

front intake and rear exhaust will help get the mobo down to 35/36 degs (cha_fan1 ramps to full power at 36 degs)
this will also help lower the cpu temp buy 10 degs (not enough )

new audio driver on asus site (slightly better but still get interference from fans at high volume on the front speaker/ line out (green port) (speedlink medusa headphones)


swish's known faults / fixes
http://vip.asus.com/forum/bbs.aspx?...130001520718^filter=5^elite=0^SLanguage=en-us
 
I was running near to 63C load with a 130N FX55 @ stock (Clawhammer 1.5v) and the Artic freezer 64 Pro.

Swapped it for the Zalman Aero and i now load at 55C @2800 1.5v
 
i had a vapochill micro which did the job fine (AMD 64 4000 @ 2.64ghz, Asus A8N SLi Deluxe) but i switched to a zalman as the vapochills are very noisy (i got slighly better temps with the vapochill though)

the vapochills are hollow and have a liquid inside which evaporates to move heat away from the cpu. if you use a tower case then the hs needs to be angled upwards to allow mavity to allow the liquid to run back to the cpu block once condensed. you could try laying the case on its side and see if the temp drops.
 
Guys

Sorry for the late response, but my Asus 7800GTX 256MB failed on me shortly afterwards and we all know what Asus RMA is like right now due to the Hemel Hempstead blast...

Anyway, I changed the Vapochill cooler for a ThermalTake Big Typhoon (impressed with price and build quality) and found that the CPU temp idled at 53C which is not a great improvement.

However, I removed the side of the case to see if it improved cooling, which it did. The temps remained steady for the CPU at 44C.

Im using a Coolermaster case, which has a large rear fan. Im not sure what to do here now apart from leaving the side of the casing off?

Thanks

Nad
 
Hi
I have had similar temp problems with my 57 although I think my choice of case was wrong for my Sli setup. I have been using the Zalman 9500 and messed about with various fans and configs but I have given up as only a Vantec tornado made any real difference and the noise was unbareable. I am going down the water cooled route for the CPU as the Leadteks are silent. Maybe the way to go for you too! Good luck
 
GTX-SLI said:
Hi
I have had similar temp problems with my 57 although I think my choice of case was wrong for my Sli setup. I have been using the Zalman 9500 and messed about with various fans and configs but I have given up as only a Vantec tornado made any real difference and the noise was unbareable. I am going down the water cooled route for the CPU as the Leadteks are silent. Maybe the way to go for you too! Good luck
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Hi all

I've had my board since last November and can honestly say; the one thing that has constantly bothered me about this board are the temperatures it produces.

After much tinkering around I finally got the cpu temp down to 43 degrees on idle and board temp down to 36. First thing to do is strip that alluminium heatsink off the top edge of the board and apply some thermal paste to the chips below. When you reattach the heatsink it will then bond itself to the chips; some clever dick at Asus thought that just having it loosely sit on top of the board would cool it adequately; Wrong!!! Prior to doing this my A8N32 would sometimes top 47 degrees!

The cpu problem was remedied the same way, stripped away the cooler and liberally applied good quality thermal paste to the cpu. I've noticed on two seperate Zalman CNPS9500 coolers that the copper bases are slightly bowed if you place a ruler across the bottom this can't be good for heat dispertion surely? So these were RMA'ed and replaced with the Zalman Fatal1ty FS-C77 cooler. The cpu temp used to rise as high as 62 degrees on load and 55 degrees idle, now I have it running at 43 degrees idle and about 47/48 load with the cpu overclocked to 2.8ghz.

However, this is still too high a temperature for me, my son has near enough the same setup that I have but he uses a DFI Lanparty UT SLI Expert board; his cpu temp never rises above 35 degrees and motherboard stable at 27 degrees. I think I've put up with this board's little nuances long enough, so today I intend to say goodbye to Asus once and for all and purchase the Abit AN8 32x board instead.

I've always bought Asus boards and would recommend them to anyone who'd listen, but the fact that Asus has used everyone who has purchased this board as an R&D testbed or guinea pig since the A8N32 Deluxe's release has never sat well with me!

So to Asus: You've had a good run guys but you've seriously let yourselves down on a flawed product that could have easily been an absolute masterstroke... Just take a look at all the temp comments on this thread; all these loyal enthusiasts can't be wrong.
 
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XXXCorps said:
Hi all

I've had my board since last November and can honestly say; the one thing that has constantly bothered me about this board are the temperatures it produces.

After much tinkering around I finally got the cpu temp down to 43 degrees on idle and board temp down to 36. First thing to do is strip that alluminium heatsink off the top edge of the board and apply some thermal paste to the chips below. When you reattach the heatsink it will then bond itself to the chips; some clever dick at Asus thought that just having it loosely sit on top of the board would cool it adequately; Wrong!!! Prior to doing this my A8N32 would sometimes top 47 degrees!

The cpu problem was remedied the same way, stripped away the cooler and liberally applied good quality thermal paste to the cpu. I've noticed on two seperate Zalman CNPS9500 coolers that the copper bases are slightly bowed if you place a ruler across the bottom this can't be good for heat dispertion surely? So these were RMA'ed and replaced with the Zalman Fatal1ty FS-C77 cooler. The cpu temp used to rise as high as 62 degrees on load and 55 degrees idle, now I have it running at 43 degrees idle and about 47/48 load with the cpu overclocked to 2.8ghz.

However, this is still too high a temperature for me, my son has near enough the same setup that I have but he uses a DFI Lanparty UT SLI Expert board; his cpu temp never rises above 35 degrees and motherboard stable at 27 degrees. I think I've put up with this boards little nuances long enough, so today I intend to say goodbye to Asus once and for all and purchase the Abit AN8 32x board instead.

I've always bought Asus boards and would recommend them to anyone who'd listen, but the fact that Asus has used everyone who has purchased this board as an R&D testbed or guinea pig since the A8N32 Deluxe's release has never sat well with me!

So to Asus: You've had a good run guys but you've seriously let yourselves down on a product that could have been an absolute masterstoke...
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Sorry you feel that way as I have had no such troubles with the A8n32-sli. In fact I would go so far to say that its the best board I have owned. Great for overclocking and stability. Temps have never been a problem for me. I have used both Air and water and both work well with this board. Currently have an opty 170 @ 2.8 with 1.44v...idle 32 load 45.
 
w3bbo said:
Sorry you feel that way as I have had no such troubles with the A8n32-sli. In fact I would go so far to say that its the best board I have owned. Great for overclocking and stability. Temps have never been a problem for me. I have used both Air and water and both work well with this board. Currently have an opty 170 @ 2.8 with 1.44v...idle 32 load 45.
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As a follow on from my previous comments; I swapped out the Asus A8N32 Deluxe yesterday and replaced with the Abit AN8 32x board; in part due to the temp problems and can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Abit board absolutely wipes the floor with the Asus effort; seriously, no kidding, and this is from someone who until yesterday absolutely swore by any component with Asus stamped on it!!!

CPU temps at 31 degrees full load anyone...
 
XXXCorps said:
As a follow on from my previous comments; I swapped out the Asus A8N32 Deluxe yesterday and replaced with the Abit AN8 32x board; in part due to the temp problems and can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Abit board absolutely wipes the floor with the Asus effort; seriously, no kidding, and this is from someone who until yesterday absolutely swore by any component with Asus stamped on it!!!

CPU temps at 31 degrees full load anyone...
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Yeah problem is everyone goes on the DFI/Asus bandwagon so to speak & we never know really how good the other boards are because they get written off i.e not many people will buy other makes it seems . . . . :rolleyes:

I think what you will see is things always go round in a circle, I always used to use Abit, not long ago I bought an Abit & it woudnt work with my old tagan 480w so switched back to Asus, had a faulty A8N-Sli Premium but replaced it with the same board & its working great so far.

Maybe you just got a duff board, as you will see a lot of people who have bought the A8N32 Deluxe have had no problems & also seen as its a fairly new product, maybe the problem will be recitified in a later bios update?

In regards to Manufacturers, when AM2 comes out I may switch back to Abit or maybe try DFI I'm not a major fan of any but Asus b boards always seem really easy to set up.
 
Nelly said:
Yeah problem is everyone goes on the DFI/Asus bandwagon so to speak & we never know really how good the other boards are because they get written off i.e not many people will buy other makes it seems . . . . :rolleyes:

I think what you will see is things always go round in a circle, I always used to use Abit, not long ago I bought an Abit & it woudnt work with my old tagan 480w so switched back to Asus, had a faulty A8N-Sli Premium but replaced it with the same board & its working great so far.

Maybe you just got a duff board, as you will see a lot of people who have bought the A8N32 Deluxe have had no problems & also seen as its a fairly new product, maybe the problem will be recitified in a later bios update?

In regards to Manufacturers, when AM2 comes out I may switch back to Abit or maybe try DFI I'm not a major fan of any but Asus b boards always seem really easy to set up.
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Hi

As stated earlier I've had the Asus board since last November and had ironed out the majority of the little bugbears that plague this board, (just check out any of the threads pertaining to the A8N32). As regards a remedy to the temp issues this is something I could niether sort out, nor was willing to to put up with, for fear of it frying my CPU.
Regarding Bios updates, any owner of this board will tell you; since its very recent inception there have been several bios releases and I have never quite got over the feeling that Asus have used the consumer as an R&D testbed for their flagship mobo; and these aren't just problems seen exclusively with the AMD version of the board I can tell you; P5N32 SLI Deluxe anyone?

The A8N SLI series of boards: Fabulous.
A8N32 Deluxe: seriously; look elsewhere.
 
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