Accord 2.4 VTec type S

iv-tecman · 2 Jun 2010 at 16:43

IAmATeaf said:
Not that I'm a Jap fan or am in love with my Accord (well it does have 2 exhaust pipes so you can't really blame me ) but the interior isn't that bad and to me it doesn't feel flimsy. When I got my Type-S, was an ex-demo back in 2004, I had a look at quite a few cars for some sick reason I quite liked the interior and still do.

To answer the OPs question(s) the economy is nothing to shout about, I get around 26-28mpg on average, servicing the car if done at a Honda dealer isn't particularly cheap (from what I've read here a 3 series is cheaper to service) and I've had no problems with my car. It does eat through tyres and brake pads but that's probably more related to the way I drive and if pushed hard does suffer from heavy under steer. If I was honest boot access isn't that great but it does have folding rear seats for those long squat moments.

Pretty much how I feel about mine and posted pretty much the same. Dealer servicing is a total rip, I never paid for it, and had a local garage service mine...

I've had nothing major go wrong with my 2.4 Type S either. Tire wear on the front is poor at times, but again could be down to my driving, brake pads wear down quickly as well on mine too..

some honda Accords from 03 - 05 had a headlight fault, it got water into the lens and wouldn't drain out. It was fixed for free, mine was fixed for free but not all suffered with it.

boot access is poor as mentioned. And as for the interior, is not too bad. Mine has been fine, its well built, feels solid and apart from my stereo being a bit up and down with the volume control (its odd, radio doesn't keep a constant volume level anymore) and the lack of backlit controls on the steering wheel (stupid idea, can't see them in the dark) the car is actually pretty good..

Chong Warrior · 2 Jun 2010 at 17:48

[TW]Fox;16668978 said:
So why even waste our time mentioning it? Seems a bit sily to bring up all that stuff about tax if its off the table irrespective because the rational person in your life says no. It'd have been as relevent to explain reasons why you didnt want a Veyron.

Chong Warrior said:
Up until this weekend I'd been exclusively looking at diesels as I've had TDi's for years. This weekend I test drove the Mondeo ST220 and the Megane 225 Sport just for the hell of it... and the old petrol head in me has been awoken!

Just mentioning as to why I've decided to go back to a sporty petrol car after owning a diesel for the past decade... didn't realize that nano second it took to read was so valuable

My budget isn't set in stone at £5k, I just said I was aiming to spend that much, if possible on a 5 year old Accord with FSH and the lower the mileage the better. The ST220 I drove was a 2006 and as I said I was told it was £400 a year tax.... something I'm not willing to pay on top of it being thirsty with petrol and also group 16 insurance. (Accord is group 14)

When you add it all up the ST seems quite a bit more expensive to run than the Accord? Not to mention the sulky long face of the missus as she will moan about every little thing on an ST "because she never wanted one in the first place" ... not worth the hassle.

Chong Warrior · 2 Jun 2010 at 17:56

SoliD said:
It isn't too bad on a run you will see 34mpg at a steady 70, I get on average 26mpg or so, and at the one's you're pricing up its only £245, only cars registered after 23 march 2006 would be in the next price band up.

Being totally honest, how are you driving it? I just remember my mates ST200 was horrendous. That was only a 2.5 and 20bhp less power... I can't see the new, bigger, more powerful motor being much better?

Loved the interior on that car though, the handling was excellent, and the noise from the V6 always brought a smile. Great car

Pulsar_GTI said:
Bet you wish you never asked the question now Chong Warrior lol

He doesnt want a Mondeo!!!!

Check out this site http://www.usedcarexpert.co.uk/cars.aspx?numModel=314&id=609 its gives you all the faults buyers have come across. You have to sign up but its free and a very useful site!

I would have Accord over a Mondeo anyday as the build quality is sooo much better imo!!

Yeah signed up on there, Accord seems to fair better than most

[TW]Fox · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:09

Chong Warrior said:
Being totally honest, how are you driving it? I just remember my mates ST200 was horrendous. That was only a 2.5 and 20bhp less power... I can't see the new, bigger, more powerful motor being much better?

Why can't you see a newer engine being more efficient? Does a 2009 Corsa deliver the same fuel economy as a 1982 Nova?

[TW]Fox · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:10

Chong Warrior said:
also group 16 insurance. (Accord is group 14)

You are 35! Insurance group is meaningless let alone the difference between 14 and 16. I'm not saying get a Mondeo, infact dont, but for goodness sake stop taking into account meaningless things in car purchase.

I am 10 years younger than you and just renewed my insurance on a Group 17 car for £381 - seriously, once you are not 12 anymore insurance makes no odds unless you decide to buy an M3 or something.

Nor · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:23

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1522944.htm

You get them pretty cheap with low mileage, big boot, nice v6 noise.

[TW]Fox · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:24

Nor said:
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1522944.htm

You get them pretty cheap with low mileage, big boot, nice v6 noise.

Dont be ridiculous, it's not even the same class of car, its the same bodyshell as the mid 1990's Honda Civic!

Nor · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:28

[TW]Fox;16672823 said:
Dont be ridiculous, it's not even the same class of car, its the same bodyshell as the mid 1990's Honda Civic!

You don't need to go mad at me Foxy

Just suggesting an alternative which ticks the boxes of big boot, nice noise and low miles value for money.

Chong Warrior · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:28

[TW]Fox;16672736 said:
Why can't you see a newer engine being more efficient? Does a 2009 Corsa deliver the same fuel economy as a 1982 Nova?

That isn't what I said

[TW]Fox;16672750 said:
You are 35!

Yeah but I look a lot younger...

[TW]Fox;16672750 said:
Insurance group is meaningless let alone the difference between 14 and 16. I'm not saying get a Mondeo, infact dont, but for goodness sake stop taking into account meaningless things in car purchase.

I am 10 years younger than you and just renewed my insurance on a Group 17 car for £381 - seriously, once you are not 12 anymore insurance makes no odds unless you decide to buy an M3 or something.

Not really what I was saying either...

The Mondeo is slightly more thirsty, more to tax and costs a bit more to insure, etc. Little bits add up to make bigger bits?

I'm already jumping from a wallet friendly 1.9tdi to a sporty petrol with half the mpg, give us a break

[TW]Fox · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:31

The Mondeo DOES NOT cost more to tax! Will you stop saying that? A £6k ST220 wont cost any more to tax.

Why are you trying to buy a large engined car if you are going to fuss so much over the difference between two similar insurance groups etc? Just buy the base model or something.

Chong Warrior · 2 Jun 2010 at 18:33

Witor said:
Accord 2.4 Type-S.

My old man recently traded his in (for a new shape Accord 2.4...)

It was really practical (I can see 2 small prams/double buggy fitting), comfortable, decent interior/toys. Looks are of course subjective, I still think they look quite cool in terms of design.

It felt nice to drive, no type-r by any stretch, engine needed to be revved as with most Vtec cars to make proper progress, but its tractable enough at low speeds. Fuel consumption wasn't brilliant, probably better than an st220, but not miles better i'd wager.

Yeah the boot space seems good. As for the looks, with the 17" 5 spoke alloys, side skirts, fogs, spoiler and twin exhaust they're a fine looking motor

Have yet to drive one yet so a lot is riding on how I feel about the car on the day.

Rilot · 2 Jun 2010 at 19:01

I'm a big fan of the 03+ Accords. The build quality is very good for a car in it's class and far surpasses The Mondeo of the same age but, the Type-s and the ST220 aren't even in the same class when it comes to driving dynamics. The ST220 is a real drivers car. The Accord isn't.
I do have to agree with what Fox is saying though. If you are worried about small things like a few quid either way on road tax, then a performance car probably isn't for you. I'd go and find a base model Mondeo TD if tax costs are the priority.

Chong Warrior · 2 Jun 2010 at 19:46

Rilot said:
I'm a big fan of the 03+ Accords. The build quality is very good for a car in it's class and far surpasses The Mondeo of the same age but, the Type-s and the ST220 aren't even in the same class when it comes to driving dynamics. The ST220 is a real drivers car. The Accord isn't.
I do have to agree with what Fox is saying though. If you are worried about small things like a few quid either way on road tax, then a performance car probably isn't for you. I'd go and find a base model Mondeo TD if tax costs are the priority.

Though I have said several times that the missus doesn't want one, infact she hates Mondeo's so it's a no go for the sake of peace atm. I'm just trying to pick holes in the ST to make myself feel better, as I do like the car! ....not doing a good job granted!

I've yet to drive the petrol Accord so everything said about it I might agree with and not buy one. Just an idea and that's why I started the thread... food for thought and I listen to all the posts.

daveydave · 2 Jun 2010 at 22:00

Chong Warrior said:
I remember lending a mates ST200 for a couple of weeks and that was unbelievable on juice... unless you pottered around like an old woman and even then it wasn't very good. Then I say what's the point in buying a sports car?

Lovely car to drive, they really are but the performance doesn't warrant the fuel it drinks or the tax band if you ask me.

Ok I've read the other posts so I get you don't want an ST220, but you say you drove a mates ST200 - you are aware it's a completely different engine right?

[TW]Fox · 2 Jun 2010 at 22:22

daveydave said:
Ok I've read the other posts so I get you don't want an ST220, but you say you drove a mates ST200 - you are aware it's a completely different engine right?

He said he lent a mates ST200, so presumably he gave it to somebody else to drive

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Jun 2010 at 22:47

Chong Warrior said:
and the old petrol head in me has been awoken!

I need to fit 2 baby buggys + shopping in it) so not practical enough.

Ours comfortably takes all the baby gear, shopping etc. The manual pushes 280bhp so is plenty quick enough and the Bilstein suspension is fantastic. Fuel consumption is poor, though.

Might not be anything close to what you want but I thought I'd throw it out there

e : It's a Subaru Legacy GTB. It'd probably help if I'd told you this ...

Rilot · 3 Jun 2010 at 08:28

Legacy GTB is made of win. I approve.

Relentless81 · 3 Jun 2010 at 10:05

[TW]Fox;16670066 said:
You can't justify the size of the engine? It's only a 2.4!

My commute is 6 miles in A road traffic, I rarely go on the motorway and i'm single I just dont need a car of its size. I did have a Prelude 2.2 VTI a couple of years ago and never saw over 22mpg, lesson learnt

[TW]Fox;16672750 said:
You are 35! Insurance group is meaningless let alone the difference between 14 and 16. I'm not saying get a Mondeo, infact dont, but for goodness sake stop taking into account meaningless things in car purchase.

I am 10 years younger than you and just renewed my insurance on a Group 17 car for £381 - seriously, once you are not 12 anymore insurance makes no odds unless you decide to buy an M3 or something.

You're 25

[FnG]magnolia;16674651 said:
Ours comfortably takes all the baby gear, shopping etc. The manual pushes 280bhp so is plenty quick enough and the Bilstein suspension is fantastic. Fuel consumption is poor, though.

Might not be anything close to what you want but I thought I'd throw it out there

e : It's a Subaru Legacy GTB. It'd probably help if I'd told you this ...

Ah I love these, the saloon shape especially

Chong Warrior · 3 Jun 2010 at 21:41

daveydave said:
Ok I've read the other posts so I get you don't want an ST220, but you say you drove a mates ST200 - you are aware it's a completely different engine right?

No I wasn't, do I sound like an expert on mondeo ST's?

Actually after posting this thread it's now a 50/50 between the Accord and ST220. All comes down to test drives this weekend I think.

Chong Warrior · 3 Jun 2010 at 21:46

[FnG]magnolia;16674651 said:
Ours comfortably takes all the baby gear, shopping etc. The manual pushes 280bhp so is plenty quick enough and the Bilstein suspension is fantastic. Fuel consumption is poor, though.

Might not be anything close to what you want but I thought I'd throw it out there

e : It's a Subaru Legacy GTB. It'd probably help if I'd told you this ...

Yeah I like these, very impressive motors but I'm not paying £5k for a 10 year old car.