ADSL24 LLU with C&W

thebandit

thebandit

thebandit

Associate
Joined
5 Mar 2009
Posts
1,235
Location
Essex
Anyone on this service can tell me what its like? they have just introduced it and I have signed up (impulse decision!). I was on the none LLU service and now for the same money per month I can get "unlimited" un throttled BB through C&W LLU networks. By the looks of it it should be pretty good.

I'm also hoping it'll solve a little problem I have been having but I doubt it. I've been with ADSL24 for about 3 weeks now, my sync rate when I first joined was pretty good ~12000 down ~900 up. But since it has been dropping seemingly each day. I know this will happen as the connection figures out the max stable speed but the odd thing is that my noise margin has been increasing too ?.
Its odd, it not like the line is stable but the sync is just sorting it self out, its like the line is getting physically worse by the day, I just wonder if its cos the last 3 weeks have been so wet maybe ?
Anyway, if its something dodgy with the connection at the exchange moving over to LLU should fix it, fingers crossed.
 
If it is down to issues with your line then I don't see how it would be any different on LLU, the actual line from the exchange to your home is the same wires isn't it.

I've signed up to the new C&W LLU myself although won't be activated for another 10 days apparently.
 
I think you are probably right, but I was thinking part of the connection is the termination at the exchange and if that's not so good it could be causing the issue.

Here's another question for you, although I signed up and paid for the swap to C&W I have no confirmation of any kind either by email or on the ADSL24 order status page, did you get anything to say they had received your request to swap over ?
 
I got an email immediately after I signed up and another one after I paid.

A bit later on you will get one giving you the expected activation date.

If you didn't receive any emails you can log into your ADSL24 account and all the emails they have sent you should be in there:

https://adsl24.co.uk/billing/clientarea.php?action=emails

You can also check they have got the right email address for you, in the client area.
 
thanks for the link, turns out that my email address with ADSL24 has always been wrong (explains why I have never had a mail from them before! ).
Anyway, corrected the email address and logged into the client portal to find a whole bunch of mails I have never had including the LLU confirmation.
I have saved the link to my favourites cos I can't find a link on the website to the client portal anywhere ????
 
I've just signed up for this too. Not sure what the activation date is at the moment but never mind.
I'll be saving about £4 as was on the Office15 package. Hoping for some better speeds than the current 4mbps that i am getting at the moment. If i'm really lucky i might even not have to use interleaving.
 
there is a problem with some Cisco routers connected to certain adsl2+ equipment folowing a firmware update in June (typically manifests as poor sync speeds).

I went back and forth with cisco about it and couldn't get it sorted. In the end I switched to the C&W LLU service and all the problems went away. Even though it's the same line, the equipment in the exchange is different (getting over the prob I had) and also not subject to the same management rules as the BT equipmet (e.g. IP profiles etc).

I've done all this with Aquiss but the same could apply to adsl24.
 
Me and my brother we both moved from ADSL24 to Titanadsl and our problems went away looks like Entanet have gone down the tube big time.
 
sid-180 said:
Me and my brother we both moved from ADSL24 to Titanadsl and our problems went away looks like Entanet have gone down the tube big time.
Click to expand...

Entanet have gone down hill, i was with Titan when they were still with Entenet and i moved from them to Xilo on a LLU service which is running just fine now although i did end up getting a new router as my Linksys AM200 didn't like the C&W LLU service and wouldn't hold a connection, I'm now using a Draytek 2710n and its fantastic.
 
Got activated with C&W today and first impressions are poor. Interleaving is on by default when it didn't need to be before; I assume they will accede to my request to disable it, so that should be a temporary problem.

Worse is performance to certain game servers, which is woeful and not simply down to interleaving. It seems the C&W network isn't all it's cracked up to be based on my experience, which I hope is simply a temporary fault with their routing which gets fixed. Otherwise I'm going back to a BT connection.
 
dirtydog,

Is this line with us? If so, please drop us a ticket and we'll get on to this immediately.

Matt - XILO
 
I got mine connected today and although I haven't tried any gaming on it yet, my first impressions are good. I have sync'd up so far at a touch under 12000 down and 1100 up and getting ~25ms pings on the odd speed test sites I have tried.
One thing I can't tell at the moment is if I have interleaving on or off as all the setting stuff in my account on the ADSL24 website disappeared when I asked to switch over and my router just has connection type as blank.
Anyway, the speeds I am getting are v good, especially for peaks time, moving from plusnet to this at the moment I couldn't be happier, its the first time my downloads have been measured in MB/s not KB/s.
 
We got ours through Titan and after requesting interleaving to be taken off we ping to bbc.co.uk at 16ms and most UK gameservers at a respectable 25-35ms. Pretty good all in all. :D
 
I was reading on the thinkbroadband forums that some people are getting download throughput well below their sync speed. One person syncing at 13Mb and getting 7Mb speeds, and the head of ADSL24, James, reckons this is good? :/

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/ot...-llu-disappointing-speeds.html?view=collapsed

He has previously said there was loads of spare capacity on the C&W network yet two people in that thread are getting under par speeds, another syncing at 13.4Mb but getting 2.5Mb downloads (~300KB/sec).

The hype and the spin are not matching up to the reality of this service.
 
Gaming on C&W... (server in Norway)

24y0ahw.png
 
I always wonder about people talking about their max dl speeds, what are they using to check it ? Using online speed tests, or just downloading a file through your browser will almost never show you your max speed. When I check to see what DL speed I can achieve I always use a download manager that supports multiple connections (segments) to the server and then choose a site with a lot of bandwidth ie MS or similar.
So for example, I am syncing at about 12000 at the moment and using Firefox's excellent add on "Downthemall" download manager set to make 10 connections to the server downloading larges files from MS I get speeds around 1.3MB/s....perfect!
 
thebandit said:
I always wonder about people talking about their max dl speeds, what are they using to check it ? Using online speed tests, or just downloading a file through your browser will almost never show you your max speed. When I check to see what DL speed I can achieve I always use a download manager that supports multiple connections (segments) to the server and then choose a site with a lot of bandwidth ie MS or similar.
So for example, I am syncing at about 12000 at the moment and using Firefox's excellent add on "Downthemall" download manager set to make 10 connections to the server downloading larges files from MS I get speeds around 1.3MB/s....perfect!
Click to expand...

You should only need a single thread to max your line if you use a local server (assuming it has sufficient bandwidth). Only with a poor ISP do you need more.
 
What you have to be careful of is the type of connection this reseller is reselling.

If these guys are selling a full C&W product then any sync/throughput speeds can be lay at the door of C&W.

If they have some sort of interconnect then throughput issues are most likely to lie with the reseller.

Problem we have here is that you can have reseller with a tunnel to a reseller!!

@thebandit, C&W don't have DLM and if your line is bouncing then it will need a different MSAN profile to take care of the variable nature of your line. No settling period...it should work out of the box or it's a profile change. Open a fault case with your supplier.

@dirtydog, C&W enable a small amount of interleave by default...and it's dynamic. Your line will use what it needs. As for your performance, as i said above, find out from your provider what sort of connection they have. If it's some sort of interconnect then your connection problem is not down to C&W.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom