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Hey everyone,

So I'm going to be attempting my 1st watercool project and it's going to be on two 7970s, one of which I already have which is a asus 7970 dc2t and the second is open for discussion. The case im using is a haf x and I've already got a corsair h70 on my cpu which is working great. So any tips on where to start as far as which brands to look out for and which pumps, resovours and blocks I should be looking at? Also I'm not sure whether to look at any kits as they seem to be more for cpus.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
one thing to remember with overclocking that is especialy on a later releases of a GPU process is thats it's already at the upper limits, the design and finalisation is more focused to those default frequencies. anything more than that needs more adjustment that just cooling. basicly f the idea off and use what you bought at defaults. more than that rarely translates to increased game smoothness. if thats your aim.
 
First, if you haven't done it already, thoroughly read the water cooling guides before replying in this thread, it will save you a lot of time and questions!

Two 7970's would need at least 360mm worth of decent rads to keep them nice and cool (at least 3.5cm thick). Which, depend's on what case you have and if you can fit them. EK and XSPC are great makes which OcUK have a good range of radiators in different sizes.

Fans are just as important, Gentle typhoons and Corsair SP120's are great radiator fans!

Reservoir doesn't really matter, the only thing you need to do is make sure it goes before the pump and preferable higher up than it.

Most blocks today are high flow and most pumps are quite powerful, so choosing a pump these days to suit your needs and that offers room for loop expansion has never been easier. Two high flow water blocks will be fine with anything over 400lph, most pumps are at least 700LPH. Having a super high flow pump does not give you better temperatures if your water is already flowing fast enough to keep the loop temperature uniform. In a two block set up, you will find the performance difference between one 800lph pump and two 800lph pump's negligible (it will just be noisier). Most pumps need a pump top which can make the cost of your loop add up. You can save on the pump top buy getting reservoir pump combo's like Bay reservoir/pump combo's sold by XSPC. Alternatively you can get EK Water-block's 4.0 DCP pump which needs no pump top, is cheap and pumps at 700LPH.

The size of the tubing you choose is personal preference. Anything over 1/4" internal diameter has little effects on temperatures. Clear tubing will stain over time if you use coloured coolant, you can avoid this by getting coloured tubing.

Which fittings you choose is up to you, as long as they fit your tubing! I personally avoid Monsoon fittings, though they are beauties, i find them a bit fiddly and prefer compression fittings with thumbscrews for ease. I recommend using compression fittings for your first time as they are a little easier to install, but using 1/2" barbs on 7/16" ID tubing with Koolance clips can be just as secure (just a little more difficult to install).

As for blocks:

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/

Go here to get a list of compatible EK blocks. Getting a universal block will let you use that block when you change GPU, however your RAM would be left uncooled and you might find that it gets too hot without a full block or some air flow.

Thermal geese!!! Im mentioning TIM because, though obvious, its super important that you get non electrically conductive TIM for GPU's.

I personally find it odd you are willing to go xfire with a custom loop but wont include your CPU in the loop. I know you have a H70 but a custom loop can perform better and if your spending so much money and effort watercooling your GPU's, why not sell your H70 and get a bit more radiator and a CPU block.


Also:
+1 to both PGI947 and Notorious
 
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Thanks for all the advice, that's given me a lot to think about and already made a start on the water cooling guides so a lot to keep me busy
 
I have 2x 7950s in my loop, CPU on air.

A thin 360 rad means I can't get the cards over about 55c at the moment, even with big overclocks.

I don't really like the water temp being mid 40s though and am a bit worried about summer so am probably going to add another rad.

Moral of this story - a thin 360 will be adequate for crossfire but more is always better.
 
I have 2x 7950s in my loop, CPU on air.

A thin 360 rad means I can't get the cards over about 55c at the moment, even with big overclocks.

I don't really like the water temp being mid 40s though and am a bit worried about summer so am probably going to add another rad.

Moral of this story - a thin 360 will be adequate for crossfire but more is always better.

Thats good to know, thanks for sharing.
 
You should manage a fair bit of radiator in a HAFX, iirc it will take a 360+240 combo pretty easily and probably room for another 120 up the back depending on 360 thickness.
 
ok so been doing a lot of reading and looking at other peoples rigs and have come up with a rough 1st draft for my setup.
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the current h70 and ram fans will be going and the power supply will be replaced by an 850w. i'm hoping to run on just a 360 rad with 3 gentle typhoons pushing and 2 200m fans pulling but if needed i'll add a 120 with a single fan where the h70 currently is.

the kit I've looked at so far is
XSPC D5 Dual Bay Reservoir/Pump Combo
XSPC EX360 - so hopefully i can fit a 120 at the back if needed
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC7970 DCII - copper
1x asus 7970 TOP

but still open to alternatives and still looking at cpu block, fittings, tubing and a new power supply as well as the best way to bridge the 2 gpu blocks

thanks for all the help so far and look forward to some more :D
 
just another quick question, if i was to buy a MSI 7970 oc as my second card would the ek fc7970 waterblock connections line up with the ek fc7970 dcii connections? i've been trying to look at some pictures to get a rough idea but if anyone's done this setup or similar with 2 different gpu waterblocks and can give feedback that would be great.

update: so on a much closer inspection it seems that with the 7970 dcii waterblock you have to go in and out the same side, kinda sucks a lot but especially for xfire

thx
 
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ok so put together a final list of parts and wanted to get some feedback on other peoples thoughts on my choices
Seasonic X-Series 850w
XSPC D5 Dual Bay Reservoir/Pump Combo
XSPC EX360 120mm Radiator
2m XSPC HighFlex Hose
8 x EK-PSC Compression Fitting
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC7970 DCII - Acetal
XSPC RayStorm
Asus 7970 dc2t
silver kill coil.

still a bit unsure about coolant fluid, thought about mayhems pastel but also read about it staining the hose.

any feedback greatly appreciated
 
So you have added the CPU to the loop. I would be worried that you don't have enough rad. Everything else looks ok though.
 
yeah decided to add the cpu as i think it would look a bit of a mess otherwise, looking at the case it seems i could easily fit an additional xspc rs120 where my h70 currently sits, would this be sufficient or should i be looking to fit a 240 somewhere?leaning towards the 240 but no idea where i could fit it without moding the case
 
yeah decided to add the cpu as i think it would look a bit of a mess otherwise, looking at the case it seems i could easily fit an additional xspc rs120 where my h70 currently sits, would this be sufficient or should I be looking to fit a 240 somewhere?leaning towards the 240 but no idea where I could fit it without moding the case

you could take out the 3.5" bays and put a phobya 200mm rad in the front. If not, i think the 120 at the back is your only option without moding or mounting them on the outside.

As for fluid staining, all coloured fluid stains hosing over time whether its premixed or dyed. To be honest its not much of a problem since most premixes don't need maintenance for ages and by the time they do, its probably best if you change the tubing at that point anyway. Mayhems pastel is a great coolant, which I am going to go back to using.
 
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