Edited………There is an improvement in Msfs with the 5600x…I was mistaken.

Robinhood23 · 30 Aug 2021 at 21:28

Just installed the 5600x and have absolutely no gain at all. In fact now I have a little stuttering that wasn’t there before.
I don’t use PBO and my ram is set to 3200 as it should be in bios.
I’m not up to date with the new bios,S . Am I forgetting anything to set.
My system is..
Msi B550 Tomahawk
Ryzen 5600x
Corsair 3200 32 gb
Oculus Rift S
Rtx 3080 FE

I’m thinking of putting the 3600 back in but I just can’t believe this new 5600x can be as bad as this.
I must be missing something.
Any help would be very welcome.

EsaT · 30 Aug 2021 at 21:40

Might need clearing CMOS to get BIOS to adjust settings fully for new CPU.
Also some old BIOS might have bug which has been fixed.

Tetras · 30 Aug 2021 at 21:50

Run a CPU benchmark or three, to check your scores and the CPU is working properly.

What cooler are you using?

Robinhood23 · 30 Aug 2021 at 22:08

Tetras said:
Run a CPU benchmark or three, to check your scores and the CPU is working properly.

What cooler are you using?

I get 24183 in Pass mark cpu which is 4000 more than my 3600 and just using the stock Wraith stealth but temps are only 70 to 75.

Robinhood23 · 30 Aug 2021 at 22:09

EsaT said:
Might need clearing CMOS to get BIOS to adjust settings fully for new CPU.
Also some old BIOS might have bug which has been fixed.

Will clear CMOS in the morning…bios is the latest.

jigger · 31 Aug 2021 at 00:51

Run cinebench and download CPU-Z. post some screen shots.

MSI boards can throw up a bug when swapping CPU’s.

Robinhood23 · 31 Aug 2021 at 07:39

jigger said:
Run cinebench and download CPU-Z. post some screen shots.

MSI boards can throw up a bug when swapping CPU’s.

Ok…will try to do that later, though the Passmark test is showing a 20% improvement as it should.
I’m starting to think it’s running correctly, which is just a little better than a 3600.

jigger · 31 Aug 2021 at 07:53

Robinhood23 said:
Ok…will try to do that later, though the Passmark test is showing a 20% improvement as it should.
I’m starting to think it’s running as it correctly, which is just a little better than a 3600.

20% is more than a little better, that’s
like a decade of Intel improvements. Although a 5600X should probably offer a little more than a 20% uplift over the 3600.

Robinhood23 · 31 Aug 2021 at 08:43

I didn’t realise that was a very good increase.
It looks like it is just the Msfs software itself.
Will try Cinibench later but have never used it before.

Charlatan · 31 Aug 2021 at 16:22

Something definitely up with that. I went from a 3700 to 5600x and the difference was more than noticeable.

Robinhood23 · 1 Sep 2021 at 13:29

I put My Ryzen 3600 back in to compare and realised the 5600x was smoother with no stutters in Msfs, so it’s better but doesn’t seem to be a big step.
Better will do though.

~>Dg<~ · 1 Sep 2021 at 13:46

make sure your power options is on high performance. especially if gaming.

Robinhood23 · 1 Sep 2021 at 14:00

Yes..I need to recheck that since I’ve reinstalled the cpu..cheers

Orcvader · 1 Sep 2021 at 14:24

Assuming Msfs is Microsoft Flight Simulator, it's still a pretty heavy game. I also remember seeing the game can be very VRAM heavy but I would imagine the 3080 FE should be fine with that.

Another thing to check is your GPU drivers, I remember a few months ago there was an Nvidia fix for Flight Sim when playing in VR, earlier drivers had performance issues in VR mode.

Robinhood23 · 1 Sep 2021 at 16:50

Yes …As far as I know, the latest graphics drivers are fine. Flight sim is getting better with each upgrade (mostly)
It’s actually very good in Vr now for me but I thought I’d be able to increase some level of detail settings from 50% to 100% but I couldn’t.
All other sims such as Automobilista 2 have improved by a lot and they where already good with the 3600. Getting 100fps in 4K with everything on ultra, and Vr is the same getting the full 80fps with Supersampling at 1.4 using Oculus Rift S. ..very smooth graphics.
I’m thinking now that the 5600x is really quite good and only Msfs which is getting an update on the 7th is holding it back. The more I test it in the game, the better I think it is.
Will see if things improve further as Msfs gets optimised.

Donnie Fisher · 2 Sep 2021 at 11:47

Msfs is hard on any machine, cpu and gpu. It is getting better, but was often cpu bound. basically the bulk of performance came down to how good your single thread/core cpu performance was. Which is why your getting the level of improvement you are.

HangTime · 2 Sep 2021 at 12:06

Orcvader said:
Assuming Msfs is Microsoft Flight Simulator, it's still a pretty heavy game. I also remember seeing the game can be very VRAM heavy but I would imagine the 3080 FE should be fine with that

Looking at benchmarks online, it can use over 10GB VRAM at 4k resolution Ultra settings. I would monitor your VRAM usage and check if it is getting close to the 10GB limit, if so try dialing back texture settings and/or anti-aliasing (plus any other VRAM hungry features, I haven't played this game).

Robinhood23 · 2 Sep 2021 at 12:59

Yes…that’s how it looks.

Robinhood23 · 2 Sep 2021 at 13:05

HangTime said:
Looking at benchmarks online, it can use over 10GB VRAM at 4k resolution Ultra settings. I would monitor your VRAM usage and check if it is getting close to the 10GB limit, if so try dialing back texture settings and/or anti-aliasing (plus any other VRAM hungry features, I haven't played this game).

This game is weird. Sometimes lowering the graphics actually makes things worse. You have to get the balance right with cpu and gpu, but at the moment, I can only run smoothly when I have main thread limited. When I’m Gpu limited, I get dropped frames.
Anyhow, I’m happy to wait for updates.

many thanks