Advice on cpu with integrated gfx

[FISHGUTS]

Looking for a bit of advice please.....

My elderly father is looking to replace his old desktop.
He never plays games, just general Internet usage, watching YouTube etc.
He does need something that has 4TB SSD storage as he has a huge number of old camcorder tapes, that he's had digitised. He never edits anything.
I'm guessing he can get away with a cpu with onboard gfx?
And if so, what cpu is decently future proof & good value for money atm?
I was thinking maybe one of the AM5 series Ryzen cpu's ?
Thanks.

 

[mickyflinn]

Just get him a nuc or a mini pc with an external caddy for storage unless he wants a desktop.

 

[FISHGUTS]

Yes, he wants a desktop.
Anything different just isn't worth the hassle of trying to get him to change

 

[Tetras]

I'm guessing he can get away with a cpu with onboard gfx?

Yup, no problem. Any AM5 CPU except -F includes integrated graphics (the G CPUs just have stronger graphics). The same applies to any Intel CPU, except -F.

And if so, what cpu is decently future proof & good value for money atm?

For watching YouTube as the most demanding task? Pretty much anything.

If you wanted to focus on power usage and less on compute, the 8500G is a CPU I like for basic desktop builds.

Review here:

AMD Ryzen 5 8500G Review - Zen 4 + Zen 4c Tested

The AMD Ryzen 5 8500G is a highly affordable Socket AM5 processor. It features the Phoenix 2 core, which combines the Zen 4 and Zen 4c architecture, for improved energy efficiency. In our review we test gaming performance with both integrated graphics and a discrete graphics card.

www.techpowerup.com

If you wanted to really go for it, a 245K is available for £200, which is way overkill, but has the latest IGP, together with 6 P-Cores and 8 E-Cores. I can't imagine that will be an issue (performance wise) for at least a decade.

 

[mickyflinn]

Yes, he wants a desktop.
Anything different just isn't worth the hassle of trying to get him to change

Ok.



4tb storage a mechanical hard drive would be cheaper and a fast SSD for the operating system, programs.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8500G Six Core 3.5GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 740M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01798) = £128.99
• 1 x Asrock B850M-X WiFi R2.0 (Socket AM5) DDR5 mATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-05290) = £124.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x MSI MAG A650BN UK PSU 650W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply (SKU: POW-MSI-03345) = £49.99
• 1 x Team Group MP44L 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03128) = £49.99
• 1 x Seagate 4TB Barracuda HDD 5400RPM 256MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (ST4000DM004) (SKU: HD-37T-SE) = £94.99
• 1 x Kolink Stronghold M Micro-ATX Case - Black Window (SKU: CA-068-KK) = £44.99
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin X 120 R Digital Black CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-04203) = £14.99

Total: £610.91 (includes delivery: £11.​

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[KompuKare]

It really sounds like any non-F AM5 CPU would do but the 'G' ones do idle a lot better; although mobo setting may (haven't looked at AM5 but with previous gens it certainly did and I don't think this has changed) make a difference there too. If there were any decent < 500W PSU that too can make a difference to power (over) usage.

Off topic, but it is someone who doesn't want to handle or worry about files: I'd make sure there was a decent backup strategy. Spinners have got expensive (or have not come down compared to SSDs) but are better for arching - personally I'd go and buy two x 4TB and either Raid-1 them (but only using Windows not any motherboard RAID feature - you want the drives to be recoverable if the motherboard goes down), or set up some duplication job. Make a Windows partition* and use the rest as data partition and then the 2nd drive will have a bit of slack space. Although maybe buy a small NVMe to boot off and just make the two spinners identical.

Of course, that would be only local duplicates and as they say a file does not exist unless it is in at least three places: original, local backup, and remote off-site backup!

Ignore all this if they have a NAS, multiple portable drives, an cloud storage subscription etc. Since he had them digitised he may even have them on optical backups (no idea how reliable bluray is a backup but I did recedntly see they now have 100GB or so blank discs which makes 4TB a lot more doable).

 

[FISHGUTS]

Thank you. Really appreciated

 

[Tetras]

If you wanted to really go for it, a 245K is available for £200, which is way overkill, but has the latest IGP, together with 6 P-Cores and 8 E-Cores. I can't imagine that will be an issue (performance wise) for at least a decade.

Here's a 245K build, if you really wanted to throw money at it. This CPU is on offer elsewhere and should have been discounted (everywhere) ages ago, so don't pay 265K money for it

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 5 245K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03113) = £259.99
• 1 x Asus Prime B860-Plus WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-04073) = £139.99
• 1 x Crucial Pro 48GB (2x24GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C46 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01086) = £99.95
• 1 x Crucial T500 4TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-02889) = £245.99
• 1 x Phanteks XT Silent ATX Case Closed Panel Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-03106) = £74.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.95
• 1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Dual Tower CPU Cooler -120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02719) = £38.98

Total: £956.83 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

 

[sastusbulbas]

Why does the large drive need to be NVMe/SSD? Is there a reason for this choice?

NVMe are great for quick access and if you are working, editing, recording with film, photo footage or even music production. But don't believe the best option for movie collection and playback, nor most reliable for archived material, though not an issue if material is backed up.

Is there a budget in mind? Closed or windowed case preference or even an RGB avoidance? Is this collection of film material going to grow?

Does something smaller and easier to move that is quiet and unimposing come across as better suited?

In this instance, the AMD 8500G is a lower wattage CPU that has all the required CPU/GPU power needed for the mentioned tasks.
To be honest, as no actual work or editing is being done to any of the video files, 16gb of memory would be enough would it not?

PSU choice would be the MODULAR BeQuiet 550w gold which is £65 elsewhere.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8500G Six Core 3.5GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 740M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01798) = £128.99
• 1 x Asrock B850M-X WiFi R2.0 (Socket AM5) DDR5 mATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-05290) = £124.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR5 C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (SKU: MEM-KNG-05851) = £64.99
• 1 x Team Group MP44L 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03128) = £49.99
• 1 x be quiet Pure Rock 3 Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-BEQ-04687) = £27.95
• 1 x Seagate 8TB IronWolf PRO NAS HDD 7200RPM 256MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (SKU: STO-SEA-00565) = £182.99
• 1 x be quiet! PURE POWER 12 550W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: POW-BEQ-04030) = £69.95
• 1 x Fractal Design Pop Mini Silent Black Solid Mini Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-0AJ-FD) = £79.99

Total: £741.83 (includes delivery: £11.98)​