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Current Motherboard / CPU: AsRock x79 Extreme 6 / Intel i7 3930k
Option 1: Biostar B550GTA / AMD Ryzen 9 3900x or 5900x
Option 2: ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator / AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
(Open to other options - can explain choices further if asked)
Hi, whilst I'm not new to building PCs, I am a bit out of the loop when it comes to current CPU/Motherboard standards, particularly when it comes to PCIe Lanes & NVME RAIDs. What I'm trying to understand is the following:
CPU manufacturers typically list the total number of PCIe Lanes for their processors. This can be for instance 24 (Ryzen 9 3900x & 5900x) or 28 (Ryzen 9 7900x). I'm also aware that usually x4 of these are assigned to Chipset making the former values 20 and 24 PCIe Lanes respectively. First question:
Are those 4 lanes usable at all by slots/devices lower down on the specifications or are they channelled to the chipset and there's no further usability?
- I ask because I notice in multiple specification lists, the specs for PCIe slots and M.2 slots are divided this way using what appear to be subtitles listing first the processor with associated components underneath and then the chipset, with lower spec slots following on the list:
https://www.biostar-europe.com/app/de/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=984#specification
https://www.asus.com/uk/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-x670e-creator-wifi/
If the chipset lanes are not usable, does that mean the lanes directly from the processor are to be used and subdivided by all PCIe/M.2 slots/devices on the motherboard?
If my graphics card (AMD Radeon RX 6600) uses only x8 PCIe lanes in a x16 PCIe slot, does that free up the remaining x8 PCIe lanes to be used by other devices in different slots? - and, if so, can those PCIe Lanes be utilised by devices that are listed under the chipset or is that a clear cut division (if the chipset lanes are even usable that is)?
I feel that my need to ask these questions is due to the sheer lack of available PCIe Lanes on modern motherboards and processors, unless you go for something like a Threadripper at enormous cost. My current motherboard's (AsRock x79 Extreme 6) associated processor, the i7 3930k, has 40 PCIe Lanes - a number, I gather, which was intended for graphics card SLI, but which has been nevertheless useful for modifying without worrying about hitting the PCIe lane limit. I have read explanations as to why this is the case, unsatisfactory to end-users like myself as they might be.
Next topic: Regarding NVME RAIDs, can such RAIDs be set up on the motherboard's separate M.2 slots or does it have to be done on a PCIe NVME adapter card utilising that slot's bifurcation (x8/x8, x8x4x4, x4x4x4x4)/ a Bifurcation Riser Controller?
Again, would these RAIDs have to be segregated along CPU/Chipset lines - if that is even the case? - and in such a case, would x4 from the chipset even be enough to set up a RAID with?
* Please note, I have never set up a RAID before though I have installed a single NVME drive attached to a PCIe adapter card in a PCIe 3.0 x8 slot in my present computer. I'm hoping to set up an NVME RAID in one of the possible future builds, though I suspect it may not be possible for the B550 GTA. I'm considering that motherboard because it is one of the last to feature a legacy PCI Slot. This is required for my Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro which comes with a rare IO device, useful for recording music. The B550GTA would be easier for this. In the case of the more modern ProArt X670E I would opt for a PCIe to PCI adapter, though this would use up PCIe slots I may not have PCIe lanes for. It would also be tricky to find a place for it in my case and could result in me having to buy something like this full tower case to fit it onto a backplate beneath the ATX motherboard:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/jonsbo-t59x-big-tower-secc-steel-hptx-pc-case-black-ca-024-jb.html with this *** competitor link removed ***
Alternatively it could be housed externally with these: *** competitor links removed ***
There are other considerations, but I don't wanna go on forever. The main questions are regarding PCIe lanes and NVME RAIDs. Thanks for any help you can provide.
Option 1: Biostar B550GTA / AMD Ryzen 9 3900x or 5900x
Option 2: ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator / AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
(Open to other options - can explain choices further if asked)
Hi, whilst I'm not new to building PCs, I am a bit out of the loop when it comes to current CPU/Motherboard standards, particularly when it comes to PCIe Lanes & NVME RAIDs. What I'm trying to understand is the following:
CPU manufacturers typically list the total number of PCIe Lanes for their processors. This can be for instance 24 (Ryzen 9 3900x & 5900x) or 28 (Ryzen 9 7900x). I'm also aware that usually x4 of these are assigned to Chipset making the former values 20 and 24 PCIe Lanes respectively. First question:
Are those 4 lanes usable at all by slots/devices lower down on the specifications or are they channelled to the chipset and there's no further usability?
- I ask because I notice in multiple specification lists, the specs for PCIe slots and M.2 slots are divided this way using what appear to be subtitles listing first the processor with associated components underneath and then the chipset, with lower spec slots following on the list:
https://www.biostar-europe.com/app/de/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=984#specification
https://www.asus.com/uk/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-x670e-creator-wifi/
If the chipset lanes are not usable, does that mean the lanes directly from the processor are to be used and subdivided by all PCIe/M.2 slots/devices on the motherboard?
If my graphics card (AMD Radeon RX 6600) uses only x8 PCIe lanes in a x16 PCIe slot, does that free up the remaining x8 PCIe lanes to be used by other devices in different slots? - and, if so, can those PCIe Lanes be utilised by devices that are listed under the chipset or is that a clear cut division (if the chipset lanes are even usable that is)?
I feel that my need to ask these questions is due to the sheer lack of available PCIe Lanes on modern motherboards and processors, unless you go for something like a Threadripper at enormous cost. My current motherboard's (AsRock x79 Extreme 6) associated processor, the i7 3930k, has 40 PCIe Lanes - a number, I gather, which was intended for graphics card SLI, but which has been nevertheless useful for modifying without worrying about hitting the PCIe lane limit. I have read explanations as to why this is the case, unsatisfactory to end-users like myself as they might be.
Next topic: Regarding NVME RAIDs, can such RAIDs be set up on the motherboard's separate M.2 slots or does it have to be done on a PCIe NVME adapter card utilising that slot's bifurcation (x8/x8, x8x4x4, x4x4x4x4)/ a Bifurcation Riser Controller?
Again, would these RAIDs have to be segregated along CPU/Chipset lines - if that is even the case? - and in such a case, would x4 from the chipset even be enough to set up a RAID with?
* Please note, I have never set up a RAID before though I have installed a single NVME drive attached to a PCIe adapter card in a PCIe 3.0 x8 slot in my present computer. I'm hoping to set up an NVME RAID in one of the possible future builds, though I suspect it may not be possible for the B550 GTA. I'm considering that motherboard because it is one of the last to feature a legacy PCI Slot. This is required for my Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro which comes with a rare IO device, useful for recording music. The B550GTA would be easier for this. In the case of the more modern ProArt X670E I would opt for a PCIe to PCI adapter, though this would use up PCIe slots I may not have PCIe lanes for. It would also be tricky to find a place for it in my case and could result in me having to buy something like this full tower case to fit it onto a backplate beneath the ATX motherboard:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/jonsbo-t59x-big-tower-secc-steel-hptx-pc-case-black-ca-024-jb.html with this *** competitor link removed ***
Alternatively it could be housed externally with these: *** competitor links removed ***
There are other considerations, but I don't wanna go on forever. The main questions are regarding PCIe lanes and NVME RAIDs. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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