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ilc72

ilc72

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As per my signature I currently have a Inno3d GTX 1080ti X3 Ultra and an Acer 38” 3840x1600 ultrawide with FreeSync with an operating range of 48-75Hz.

I don’t game as much as I’d like, I’m completely redoing my build with an Asus ROG theme and am thinking of selling the GTX1080ti in favour of an Asus Strix Vega 64 to complement the rest of my build.

Of course I’d like an Asus RTX 2080 but the pricing on even the non-OC Strix version is ridiculous, I simply can’t justify it!

  1. With GTX1080ti stock running out and used prices on eBay being fairly strong (not enough posts for MM) should I sell (effectively swap) the card?
  2. Will I see a noticeable FPS reduction in games, given the 75Hz cap of the monitor?
  3. Existing build will go to son as a gaming PC and for schoolwork, thinking of an RX580 8GB as he uses my old 27” 1080p 144Hz monitor, or is this overkill given he mainly plays Fortnite as I also have an old GTX780ti hanging around
The new build is in a Phanteks Evolv X with a Ryujin 360mm AIO and Thor 850w PSU along with replacement CableMod cable set. Looking at replacing stock case fans with 3 x 120mm Noctua iPPC 2000 PWM as front intake and a 140mm Noctua iPPC 2000 PWM as rear exhaust.

Looking at vertical GPU mount in the Evolv X and have the Phanteks 220mm PCIE extension already.

Any advice would be gratefully appreciated?
 
Are you crazy?

Keep the 1080 ti and grow up!

Ok have an interest but don't sacrifice performance for corporate marketing nonsense.

I'm not angry, Just disappointed :eek:

Get a Grip! :eek:
 
easyrider said:
Are you crazy?

Keep the 1080 ti and grow up!

Ok have an interest but don't sacrifice performance for corporate marketing nonsense.

I'm not angry, Just disappointed :eek:

Get a Grip! :eek:
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Ouch! Performance isn’t everything and the good thing about the PCMR is that people can build their rigs how they want them, some prefer aesthetics over the best performance.

I’m well aware the Vega 64 isn’t on a par with the 1080ti, slightly down on the 1080 overall across a wide range of titles. My question was simply was the Vega 64 good enough, not was it the best?

I use my computer mainly for productivity not gaming, I prefer an UW and there were no G-Sync monitors that had the feature set I needed and were smaller and more expensive.
 
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easyrider said:
Its not good enough for that Res...unless you lower the settings...

The Vega 64 is a strong card...but why bother...really?
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The reason is that I can pickup a Vega 64 for about the same as I can sell the GTX1080ti, then when the next generation comes out on 7nm of either the RTX or Navi then I can pick something up then.

The games I play are mostly sim or older RPG’s and not competitive FPS and even then it’s capped at 75Hz as my monitor won’t be changed anytime soon as I bought it this year. The monitor has effectively 75% of pixels of a 4K display or 125% of the pixels of a 1440p display.

I do see your point though, I might just do the build and see how it looks and feels. I will still pickup a card though for the old rig, what would you suggest for 1080p gaming? It will be on a Ryzen 1600 or maybe a 2600 depending on what deals come up? I will reuse the Strix X470F board already installed and transfer the 2700X to the new build.

My partner desperately needs a laptop, hers is dying, so I thought she could use my son’s laptop if he had a PC.
 
Vega 64 is good enough for 3440x1440 (and 3440x1600 isn't that much of a step up from that). You may not be able to attain the frame rates that the 1080Ti would and in some AAA titles you might have to lower a few of the heaviest settings down from "ultra" to be able to stay in Freesync range, but the simple fact is that the just 1080Ti can't match the smoothness Freesync offers. I'm not sure why people are saying you're mad for considering it.

For example, Far Cry 5 runs with everything maxed out, Assassins Creed: Odyssey runs with but a handful of settings turned down a bit. It's glorious and it's smooth.
 
ilc72 said:
As per my signature I currently have a Inno3d GTX 1080ti X3 Ultra and an Acer 38” 3840x1600 ultrawide with FreeSync with an operating range of 48-75Hz.
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You plan to replace the VRM thermal pads on the Strix or watercool? If so get it. Otherwise get Nitro or Red Devil. Are far better cards. (for watercooling get a reference).
Generally won't be an upgrade over the 1080Ti but you will have freesync and everything will be smooth, but make sure you set cap fps to 75 as the card will push more than that.

Also if you can sell the 1080Ti and buy the V64 cheaper then yes do it. Pocket the money.
Otherwise keep the 1080Ti. Is a great card.
 
Haven't you already broken your Asus ROG theme by going with an Acer ultrawide instead of an Asus one like the PG348Q 34"? As you say, the Asus Strix Vega 64 will be lower performing over the 1080 Ti you already have, but will also be inconvenient to sort out its cooling.

Awkward situation (from a 'First World problem' perspective :P), but yes the Vega 64 would do the job if you're really that keen. You'll have to turn down some settings to hit 75 fps a lot of the time, but then you'll get used to lowered settings. Free sync should also help make drops in fps less noticeable. If you decide to stay with the 1080 Ti until 7 nm AMD cards come out, you can use borderless full screen to at least eliminate screen tearing without Freesync.

Assuming your son's monitor is Freesync too and you're willing to part with the money, then the RX580 8GB might be worth it. Otherwise, it's not a huge upgrade from the 780 Ti. See this thread for a discussion on that: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gtx-780ti-to-1060-or-rx580.18821994/
 
easyrider said:
Its not good enough for that Res...unless you lower the settings...
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Actually on my overclocked Vega64 it did manage to do 3840x1600 on high settings on Monster Hunter World at around minimum frame rate of around 50fps, so it's ain't really as bad as you would think (but now I just play MHW on 3840x2160 on medium settings on my 4K TV and together with HDR it looks really good already, and minimum frame rate is only around 48fps). Together with the Freesync, the overall experience could be smoother than the 1080ti if taking into the consideration of OP stated he's not really really playing demanding games.

Considering the value of 1080ti is shooting up even in the 2nd hand market and a Vega64 would be good enough for OP's use, it may not be a bad thing for him to sell his 1080ti and get a Vega64 to take advantage of Freesync and pocket £70~£100 back. Also over time, the Vega64 vs 1080ti *may* become what happened with 290 vs 780ti, with the Vega64 *possibly* *eventually* catching up with the 1080ti in newer games due to Nvidia stop optimising drivers for the card for new games.

I am not saying OP should definitely do it, but he want to change due to aesthetics reason and if he's not really losing performance on the games he plays, then it is not actually be all that bad to consider the change of card (especially if he's going to get some money back).
 
Marine-RX179 said:
*Personally* I would't neither, as I can never bothered with the hassle of selling tech or electronic on auction site with high risk of coming back to bite me with those site always siding with buyers and mess the sellers over.
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Could always do collect in person. Seems like a lot of effort to go to, to downgrade though!
 
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