Aeroplane Etiquette

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Was home in Scotland last weekend for a friend's wedding. We had a great time but LA to Glasgow is a hell of a trip for a long weekend.

Anyway, had a bit of an altracation on the flight home. Basically, I was sitting in cattle class on a daytime flight. Now those of you who regularly fly will know economy seats are not hugely spacious, but on this BA flight I was pleasantly surprised - it was definately better than Virgin who I normally fly with. That was until the **** in the seat in front decided to recline his chair fully about 20 seconds after take off!!!

Am I alone in thinking this is the most inconsiderate thing anyone can do? I didn't have a lot of space to start with, but now I've got this ****'* head about 2 inches from my nose and no room to do anything. For 11 hours! I don't mind if its a night flight and everyone's sleeping, but this was a daytime flight.

Anyway, I sat there quietly fuming, until they served the meal, at which point I figured he'd put his seat forward. But oh no. As the steward and I struggled to manouver my own tray in to place I finally lost it and politely asked the guy to his seat forward, at least while we were eating. His response was, well, less than civil and basically involved telling me to **** off. I looked at the steward for help, but he just gave me a 'not my problem' look. I then proceeded to call the guy in front an arrogant fat person of questionable parentage which degenrated into a slagging match which was finally stopped when the chief pursor came back and told us both to behave.

Anyway, looking back the slagging match was all a bit childish, but am I alone in thinking aeroplane seat recliners are ignorant selfish so and so's?
 
He's paid for a seat, he is entitled to recline it. It wasnt as if he was doing anything out of the ordinary with the seat, is it?

If space is a problem for you, then you should fly Premium Economy, Club, or First.
 
I get annoyed about this as well, although i respect the fact that they can recline the seat when they want, they are told to put it back up again at meal times, i think in your case the cabin crew didn't do their job, i've had that a few times and the cabin crew have told the guy before i've had to say anything.

Slagging match wasn't a good idea though, maybe should've spoken to the chief steward and asked them to tell the guy.

If space is a problem for you, then you should fly Premium Economy, Club, or First.

I dont think asking for a bit of space to eat your meal is that wrong, its just polite since the cabin crew do ask you to put your seat back up.
 
Reclining chairs are evil.

Cabin crew should have told him off for reclining chair whilst in climb.

Cabin crew should also have told him off for not straightening up during meal time.

You should have said something from the onset, not wait for a while.
 
[TW]Fox said:
He's paid for a seat, he is entitled to recline it. It wasnt as if he was doing anything out of the ordinary with the seat, is it?

If space is a problem for you, then you should fly Premium Economy, Club, or First.

The OP has also paid for a seat and shouldn't have to put up with this guy having reclined his seat fully. A little courtesy would have avoided the whole situation...
 
No matter how annoying it may be, you dont really have grounds for complaint. He's paid for a seat which reclines, so he's entitled to recline it. If you dont like it then purchase a seat in one of the other classes where there is more room.

Whats arguably more annoying is when there are kids sitting behind you, flipping their meal trays up and down constantly, causing a constant thud on the back of your seat which vibrates through onto your back. While their parents do **** all about it! Luckily the flight stewards were on the ball and came to my rescue after about an hour.
 
Mad old tory said:
The OP has also paid for a seat and shouldn't have to put up with this guy having reclined his seat fully. A little courtesy would have avoided the whole situation...

So complain to the airline who fitted seats which recline that far.

The seat reclines, he used it. End of issue.

Either fly with somebody else, or pay for a better seat.
 
Baron G said:
Anyway, looking back the slagging match was all a bit childish, but am I alone in thinking aeroplane seat recliners are ignorant selfish so and so's?

Nope. This one guy pushed his back and it really squashed someones legs so the guy behind stopped him so he turns back smiles and really pushes back which hurt him.

About 3 hours later he was sleeping and the guy infront was having a nightmare (and near the exit door :/) he woke up screaming, climbed up the wall (literally) and flapping his hands about. I couldnt stop laughing because the idiot abusing his recliner pushed it back forward and sat up with a scared look on his face....karma ^^
 
imo the seat designs will have fitted a maximum restriction on the distance it can recline, so he can recline away, although at meal times he should put it up, just recline yours, that was the only guy that gets screwed is the person infront of the toilets/wall
 
[TW]Fox said:
So complain to the airline who fitted seats which recline that far.

The seat reclines, he used it. End of issue.

Either fly with somebody else, or pay for a better seat.

The reason I didn't say anything until the meal was I tend to agree with you - its his choice to recline the seat. It doesn't stop me thinking that making that choice marks you out as a total ****** though.

I agree with the poster who said the steward could have diffused the situation by getting the guy to put his seat up for the meal - they usually do this. That was all I was asking him to do.

The "pay for a better seat arguemnt" is stupid. The costs involved make that unrealistic for most people.
 
My knees usually touch the seat in front... whenever the person in front trys to recline I just lock my legs and apply a little foreward pressure.... on dozens of flights the person in front usually gives up after a few moments of not being able to shift anywhere.
 
PeterNem said:
My knees usually touch the seat in front... whenever the person in front trys to recline I just lock my legs and apply a little foreward pressure.... on dozens of flights the person in front usually gives up after a few moments of not being able to shift anywhere.

I do exactly the same thing - the only real solution. You are too polite to ask him not to recline his seat and he is to polite to ask you to remove your knees and let him recline.
 
[TW]Fox said:
So complain to the airline who fitted seats which recline that far.

The seat reclines, he used it. End of issue.

Either fly with somebody else, or pay for a better seat.

So you're saying you wouldn't be slightly annoyed if you couldn't eat your meal properly even though everyone is asked to raise their seat at mealtime :\

Not everyone can afford better seats, just because the guy can recline his seat doesn't mean he can't be a reasonable person and raise it for 15 minutes to eat and then put it back down, its about being a decent person, not 'i can do this and screw you if you don't like it'.
 
I'm sorry but I don't buy into all this "He payed for the seat, he can recline it as far as he wants" guff. I payed for my seat, not his bloody back rest! Who the hell needs that on your knees??

Next time politely ask the person infront of the offender to swap with you, and recline, and bounce a little...
 
I was the first to check-in once and still ended up with a toilet wall seat with no recliner. Queue 4 hours of cramped breathing... The best part? The seat in front had a broken recliner which made it impossible for the person to sit up-right even if he wanted to!

They really should just ban recliners all together in cattle class. They cause too much frustration.
 
[TW]Fox said:
So complain to the airline who fitted seats which recline that far.

The seat reclines, he used it. End of issue.

Either fly with somebody else, or pay for a better seat.

What ever happened to good old fashioned manners?
 
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