After a coupe of good 140mm case fans

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I want to add two 140mm front intakes to my Enthoo Pro M case to go with the single 140mm rear exhaust it already has.

I'm looking for PWM controlled fans that can spin down to quiet levels at idle but move some serious air when turned up. I'm not too bothered if they're a bit noisy at load so long as they're nice and quiet when my system is idle and doesn't need the airflow.

I was initially looking at the Corsair ML140s. At £30 for a pair they're not the cheapest, but not too expensive. Then I saw that the new Cryorig QF140 is slated to move more air at load (128 vs 97 cfm). I don't know if that's a reliable figure or just marketing guff akin to stated contrast ratios on monitors?

I had them in my basket here, but then I saw a couple of comments on review sites that the cables are very short, which would be a pain and would require me to buy extensions as well.

Then there's the Noctua AF14 Industrial, which goes up to a whopping 3000rpm. Surely very noisy at load, it seems they have a minimum speed of 2000rpm, which is not going to be very quiet.

I also looked at the Arctic Cooling P14 PWM fans, but there seems to be some inconsistency about the max speed of these - some places it say max of 1350rpm, others 1700rpm. I'd not want one of the slower ones if there are two versions. These are really cheap, though!

Any reason to prefer one over the other of these? Any other recommendations?
 
Phanteks PH-F140MP are quite good and 2-pack is only £16.26. Assuming your Entho Pro M is not too old exhaust fan is probably same impeller with variable voltag motor. if older it's PH-F140SP. Not as good but still good fan.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html

In my Pro M I removed all PCIe back slot covers to improve vent area around GPU and use 2x PH-F140MP front intakes with all other opening in front fan mounting panel blocked off so air can't leak back up front. I don't have any other fans, no exhaust fans. Have built 20+ systems this way over they years with great cooling results.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Have seen artic cooling fans mentioned
Are those the ones you can daisy chain?
Seen them recommended as cheap and quiet
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Yeah, I think they are. I'm sure I've had people recommend them too. They're so cheap, though! Almost seems they can't be that good at the price!

doyll said:
Phanteks PH-F140MP are quite good and 2-pack is only £16.26. Assuming your Entho Pro M is not too old exhaust fan is probably same impeller with variable voltag motor. if older it's PH-F140SP. Not as good but still good fan.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html

In my Pro M I removed all PCIe back slot covers to improve vent area around GPU and use 2x PH-F140MP front intakes with all other opening in front fan mounting panel blocked off so air can't leak back up front. I don't have any other fans, no exhaust fans. Have built 20+ systems this way over they years with great cooling results.
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Cheers.

My case is 18 months old, but I've not checked the fan model. I did look at the PH-F140MPs, but the state airflow is a lot lower than the others. As I say, I have no idea where you can set any stock by the quoted airflow figures or not, though, in all honesty. It seems they have a narrower rpm range than the AC P14s too.
 
doyll said:
Phanteks PH-F140MP are quite good and 2-pack is only £16.26. Assuming your Entho Pro M is not too old exhaust fan is probably same impeller with variable voltag motor. if older it's PH-F140SP. Not as good but still good fan.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html

In my Pro M I removed all PCIe back slot covers to improve vent area around GPU and use 2x PH-F140MP front intakes with all other opening in front fan mounting panel blocked off so air can't leak back up front. I don't have any other fans, no exhaust fans. Have built 20+ systems this way over they years with great cooling results.
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Nice price for those phanteks thanks for that
Didn't recommend phanteks as thought would be more expensive
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Very good price
And guessing he mentioned those as static pressure in front fans can be more useful than just airflow
As usually there's stuff behind front fans impedes airflow
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Yes, I can see that. In my case there isn't anything behind the front intakes, but they do have to draw air through the mesh and dust filters, which might be a bit restrictive of airflow too, I guess.
 
Got an enthoo luxe here
So probably similar layout to your pro so know what you mean
Daisy chaining could be useful
But I would still be tempted by the phanteks one
I do like my phanteks stuff though lol
Got a primo when most people had barely heard of Phanteks and Been hooked ever since
On luxe 2 now
 
strumpusplunket said:
Yeah, I think they are. I'm sure I've had people recommend them too. They're so cheap, though! Almost seems they can't be that good at the price!



Cheers.

My case is 18 months old, but I've not checked the fan model. I did look at the PH-F140MPs, but the state airflow is a lot lower than the others. As I say, I have no idea where you can set any stock by the quoted airflow figures or not, though, in all honesty. It seems they have a narrower rpm range than the AC P14s too.
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CoolingTechnique tested PH-F140MP (same fan as PH-F140HP II on coolers). You can see their pressure rating is much higher than NF-A15 at same rpm, and this translated into being able to overcome airflow resistance thus giving much better airflow. Keep in mind CFM rating is free airflow, no resistance .. and mmH2O is how much pressure fan can build when mounted to a sealed container. Neither gives us any idea how much air they will flow in our uses, but when we combine them we can get at least a little idea of how they will perform.
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doyll said:
CoolingTechnique tested PH-F140MP (same fan as PH-F140HP II on coolers). You can see their pressure rating is much higher than NF-A15 at same rpm, and this translated into being able to overcome airflow resistance thus giving much better airflow. Keep in mind CFM rating is free airflow, no resistance .. and mmH2O is how much pressure fan can build when mounted to a sealed container. Neither gives us any idea how much air they will flow in our uses, but when we combine them we can get at least a little idea of how they will perform.
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Nice
Very technical
Me I just put my hand behind them lol
Be hard to go wrong with the phanteks at that price point though
 
doyll said:
CoolingTechnique tested PH-F140MP (same fan as PH-F140HP II on coolers). You can see their pressure rating is much higher than NF-A15 at same rpm, and this translated into being able to overcome airflow resistance thus giving much better airflow. Keep in mind CFM rating is free airflow, no resistance .. and mmH2O is how much pressure fan can build when mounted to a sealed container. Neither gives us any idea how much air they will flow in our uses, but when we combine them we can get at least a little idea of how they will perform.
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Thanks, that's very interesting. I think that has swung it for me!

Thanks for your input! :)
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Nice
Very technical
Me I just put my hand behind them lol
Be hard to go wrong with the phanteks at that price point though
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strumpusplunket said:
Thanks, that's very interesting. I think that has swung it for me!

Thanks for your input! :)
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No problem! Indeed, Cooling Technique do a good job of fan testing. Sadly they haven't done anything new in a couple of years now.
 
Owned 10 of the Arctic before, swapped for the Phanteks just for the looks, can't tell the difference, apart from the increased cost of the Phanteks, but to be air, running them, as did with the Arctic, at minimum speed.
 
Well, it's a bit late now, unfortunately (or fortunately, who knows?). I got my dispatch notice this morning for the Phanteks fans.

Having two intakes and one exhaust, hopefully the high static pressure of these fans will help with case cooling. I don't know if postive pressure actually makes a real difference, but I have seen it recommended a lot over the years. Things are a bit toasty with just the single exhaust fan, anyway.

I'll be doing a new build for my eldest on his birthday in a couple of months so I might the P14s then and compare for myself.
 
Late to the game but i just changed all my fans to P14s and P12s from Artic ... tried out several different brands and i must admit i'm surprised by the fan performance and its cost
 
Lots of mixed feeling about ArcticP fans. Everyone I know who has used top tier fans found them lacking, yet lots of other on forums do. Over the years I've only seen a couple people complain about PH-F140MP. I've used a lot of TY-140, TY-147, Ph-F140SP, PH-F140MP, PH-F120MP, a few NF-A14, Akasa Viper, FHP141, Gentle Typhoon and others I can't rmember offhand. I really like PH-F140MP. I want to try NF-A12x25 too.
 
I'll soon be swapping my Intake and exhaust Arctic P series fans for Noctua fans soonish, I'll be able to comment on GPU, CPU and System temps once done as long as its before the summer time as at the moment the room is always 19C
 
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