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AGP Bang for Buck??

coopz8181

coopz8181

coopz8181

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Having hopefully had the money refunded from an HIS 512mb x1950pro, I was wondering what agp card will give the most bang for buck looking at the 80-140 pound range?

Im thinking either the Geforce 7600GT - if so then which model ?

OR

The saphirre x1950pro 512mb

OR

Gecube X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 X-Turbo Fan Overdrive edition

Feedback appreciated as always from you legends out there :)
 
Being an NV man I would normally say..... "ATI saphirre x1950pro 512mb" lol, best card of the bunch tbh.... and I am being serious.....

Brilliant performer for the price... cant go wrong...

Regards

Vic
 
7600 gt is best bang for buck tbh any agp rig is going to sooner or later
be struggling so i'd get that until you can upgrade to pci express based system.
 
If you're an Nvidia Fan, another card to consider would be the newly released 7950GT 512MB. It comes into flavors. One with a 550 Mhz. Core / 1300 Mhz. effective memory and a cheaper version which has a 450 Mhz. Core / 1200 Mhz. effective memory.

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product...ce™+7900&productConfigurationId=1006114

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product...ce™+7900&productConfigurationId=1006137

Although as the others have suggested, I think the Sapphire X1950 Pro 512MB is best banging card you can get for the money. However, if money is not a concern then I would say go for the Gecube X1950XT. Much Luck.
 
The x1950pro is about £30 - £40 more expensive than the 7600GT. If you want to keep it cheap, the 7600GT would be my choice. I need to replace the 6800Ultra in my son's PC, and the 7600GT is what I'm going to get :D
 
Gecube X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 X-Turbo Fan Overdrive edition

It might not be the most cost effective, but it is the most powerful and therefore, in six months time, it will be the better buy.
 
a 7600gt can not be as good as an x1950 pro. Am i wrong in saying that the x1950 pro is one of the faster cards out the at the moment from ATI aprt from the xtx range etc..

just wanted to add that i too had an HIS x1950 pro now i have the sapphire x1950 pro.
 
Depends how cheap the X1950XT is, if its like £140, then I would go with the Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB since the performance difference wont be huge and sometimes down the line perhaps this year you would want to upgrade again.

From what I have seen the 7600GT is not as good as the X1950Pro, but I would go with the ATi because they have better driver support and even though its like £40 more it's still worth it.
 
willhub said:
Depends how cheap the X1950XT is, if its like £140, then I would go with the Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB since the performance difference wont be huge and sometimes down the line perhaps this year you would want to upgrade again.
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The performance difference is enormous. It has 48ppp vs. 36ppp and the actual GPU (650/675 vs. 580MHz) and memory (1600MHz vs. 1400MHz) are clocked higher. And, because the 1950Pro is a common card, it will not hold it's value as well as a top of the range card like the XT, so when you come to sell it, it will be worth less as a proportion of the purchase price. My understanding is that the cheapest Sapphire X1950Pro 512Mb is about £120+delivery and the GeCube X1950XT 256Mb is available for £140 Incl. delivery so for me it's an easy recommendation to say get the better performing GPU. The RAM difference is fairly irrelevant with an AGP card (the maximum AGP Aperture offered is 256Mb so no motherboards can address all the 512MB RAM in one clock cycle anyway). The GeCube also has the TEC cooler that actually seems to work as enough heat is generated by the GPU to make it worthwhile having a TEC cooler.

In fact, the only reason I can think of for getting an X1950Pro is that the X1950XT's are currently sold out.
 
you can get the GT x1950 cards for sub £100 quid now, they are £93 for a PALIT 512mb one and the same for a Sapphire 256mb. (they are delivered inc. vat prices btw)

every review i have seen they clock to atleast PRO speeds too. :)

maybe another option
 
WJA96 said:
The performance difference is enormous. It has 48ppp vs. 36ppp and the actual GPU (650/675 vs. 580MHz) and memory (1600MHz vs. 1400MHz) are clocked higher. And, because the 1950Pro is a common card, it will not hold it's value as well as a top of the range card like the XT, so when you come to sell it, it will be worth less as a proportion of the purchase price. My understanding is that the cheapest Sapphire X1950Pro 512Mb is about £120+delivery and the GeCube X1950XT 256Mb is available for £140 Incl. delivery so for me it's an easy recommendation to say get the better performing GPU. The RAM difference is fairly irrelevant with an AGP card (the maximum AGP Aperture offered is 256Mb so no motherboards can address all the 512MB RAM in one clock cycle anyway). The GeCube also has the TEC cooler that actually seems to work as enough heat is generated by the GPU to make it worthwhile having a TEC cooler.

In fact, the only reason I can think of for getting an X1950Pro is that the X1950XT's are currently sold out.
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Well I just cheked out some benchmarks, and I would not say 7-12FPS is a huge difference.

Oblivion @ 1600x1200, Pro gets 12fps and the XT gets 17, hardly worth the extra money.
 
I suggest you take into consideration the average frame rate. Benchmarks with some sort of "demo run" is the best to judge the real world performance of a card, not looking straight (one extreme) at a wall or an area with leaks (other extreme). Maybe the slight sifference translates to huge when you observe the rates over a perdio of time and areas. I dont know, and I cant tell. Just make sure you judge by real world performance, not paper specs, and you will be happy with your purchase. :D
 
All I know is, the X1950Pro is worth £40 less because its going to run all games at some good settings from plenty of time.
 
willhub said:
Well I just cheked out some benchmarks, and I would not say 7-12FPS is a huge difference.

Oblivion @ 1600x1200, Pro gets 12fps and the XT gets 17, hardly worth the extra money.
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Do you have a link? I would say that if one card is doing 12 and the other is doing 17, then one card is almost half as fast again as the other. That's an enormous difference, surely?

You couldn't really play that game at those settings on either card though, could you?

Do you have any benchmarks at 1280x1024 or 1024x768? I have this funny feeling that at 'normal' resolutions the 1950XT will annihilate the 1950Pro on framerates. The difference in price is about £10-£15 between the X1950Pro 512Mb and the X1950XT and I would say that an extra £15 for almost a 50% increase in speed was well worth it.
 
WJA96 said:
Do you have a link? I would say that if one card is doing 12 and the other is doing 17, then one card is almost half as fast again as the other. That's an enormous difference, surely?

You couldn't really play that game at those settings on either card though, could you?

Do you have any benchmarks at 1280x1024 or 1024x768? I have this funny feeling that at 'normal' resolutions the 1950XT will annihilate the 1950Pro on framerates. The difference in price is about £10-£15 between the X1950Pro 512Mb and the X1950XT and I would say that an extra £15 for almost a 50% increase in speed was well worth it.
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Google Interactive VGA Charts.
 
willhub said:
All I know is, the X1950Pro is worth £40 less because its going to run all games at some good settings from plenty of time.
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I wouldn't disagree that an X1950Pro 256Mb is worth £100 and the X1950XT is worth £140 as by the benchmark you posted above, one is almost half as fast again as the other.

Where I do have a problem, is where you try and compare the X1950Pro 512Mb unit at £125-£160 Incl. delivery against the X1950XT at £140 delivered and then I think the XT is clearly the better value card.
 
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