Alan Wake is Vista only

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"I'll confirm that Alan Wake is Vista and 360 exclusive. I know some people have reacted strongly to that, but for us this was one of the key decisions that will allow us to create the best possible game.

We've locked this down a while ago, and being able to focus on fewer platforms means that the game is going to kick more ass than ever before. By going with Vista, we don't have to compromise everything to the lowest common PC denominator and since we're not doing a PS3 version we can go all out with PC and 360 multithreading, HDR rendering etc. This focus benefits the tech and game design immensely.

We're really sorry if some end up missing the game because of our platform choice, but in the end of the day we *must* base our decisions on what will let us create the best possible game. That's just how Remedy as a team works: we're passionate about creating something unique. Alan Wake is still our IP and we drive the creative control, but working with Microsoft gives us unprecedented levels of development support, testing resources and so on.

But... as they say, the proof is in the pudding. You guys are going to be the best judges on whether the calls we've made have been the right ones. We haven't really shown anything on what we've been up to in the past year. Once we do, it'll be up to you to see whether our work has been worthwhile.

edit - having read more I know realise this is old news, please dont hurt me
 
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Chronictank said:
im sure someone will come up with a hack to make it work on dx9 eventually
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Would be impossible. They would probally have to rewrite the whole game engine if its pure dx10 and nothin else.
 
paul8811 said:
We haven't really shown anything on what we've been up to in the past year. Once we do, it'll be up to you to see whether our work has been worthwhile
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Now you say it there's only really been the E3 2006 Trailer, so hopefully there'll be a fancy new vid out soon
 
It won't be direct x10 only. They would be fools to make a game that would only run on hardware that probably less than 20% of the worlds computers have.

It will run in DX9 or DX10 in vista. As a result i'm sure the usual windows XP hack will emerge that only allows DX9 useage. However i'm hoping that it won't make a difference which OS you run it on when the game comes out. With updates like the windows vista performance package emerging this week for example i'm hoping by the time alan wake is released windows XP and Vista will be relatively comparable in performance terms.
 
paul8811 said:
linky :(

"I'll confirm that Alan Wake is Vista and 360 exclusive. I know some people have reacted strongly to that, but for us this was one of the key decisions that will allow us to create the best possible game.

We've locked this down a while ago, and being able to focus on fewer platforms means that the game is going to kick more ass than ever before. By going with Vista, we don't have to compromise everything to the lowest common PC denominator and since we're not doing a PS3 version we can go all out with PC and 360 multithreading, HDR rendering etc. This focus benefits the tech and game design immensely.

We're really sorry if some end up missing the game because of our platform choice, but in the end of the day we *must* base our decisions on what will let us create the best possible game. That's just how Remedy as a team works: we're passionate about creating something unique. Alan Wake is still our IP and we drive the creative control, but working with Microsoft gives us unprecedented levels of development support, testing resources and so on.

But... as they say, the proof is in the pudding. You guys are going to be the best judges on whether the calls we've made have been the right ones. We haven't really shown anything on what we've been up to in the past year. Once we do, it'll be up to you to see whether our work has been worthwhile.

edit - having read more I know realise this is old news, please dont hurt me
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Not exactly news - it's been know for over 15 months its Vista only :p That was posted on the remedy forums MAY 2006


Would be impossible. They would probally have to rewrite the whole game engine if its pure dx10 and nothin else.
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So what's this "secret" we've been mentioning about the demo? Well, okay, it's not really that much of a secret but remember how Remedy ran Alan Wake in IDF on a quad core machine? Well, they showed it to us on a dual core processor in a machine with around 2GB of RAM (perhaps more) and a single ATI Radeon X1900 series graphics card - all running perfectly well on a massive HD screen with anti-aliasing enabled.
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http://www.yougamers.com/articles/4489_remedy_interview_-_part_3_the_power_behind_wake-page5/


X1900 isn't DX10 is it ? ;) Yet another title arbitarily made Vista only for nothing more than commercial reasons :(
 
Streeteh said:
It won't be direct x10 only. They would be fools to make a game that would only run on hardware that probably less than 20% of the worlds computers have.

It will run in DX9 or DX10 in vista. As a result i'm sure the usual windows XP hack will emerge that only allows DX9 useage. However i'm hoping that it won't make a difference which OS you run it on when the game comes out. With updates like the windows vista performance package emerging this week for example i'm hoping by the time alan wake is released windows XP and Vista will be relatively comparable in performance terms.
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The usual hack eh?
Because there have been so many games released so far that are Vista only and the usual hack has been used so they will play OK under XP.
There was....wait a second....oh yes, there was....
 
its not commercial reasons, if you read it its so that they can up the minimum spec, as vista requires better min spec than xp, therefor they can make the game better.
 
Kipper67 said:
Not exactly news - it's been know for over 15 months its Vista only :p That was posted on the remedy forums MAY 2006






http://www.yougamers.com/articles/4489_remedy_interview_-_part_3_the_power_behind_wake-page5/


X1900 isn't DX10 is it ? ;) Yet another title arbitarily made Vista only for nothing more than commercial reasons :(
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What makes you think they actually got the graphics card that was being used correct?
Whe the same article says "in a machine with around 2GB of RAM (perhaps more)" I really would question just how accurate it is.
 
stoofa said:
What makes you think they actually got the graphics card that was being used correct?
Whe the same article says "in a machine with around 2GB of RAM (perhaps more)" I really would question just how accurate it is.
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I should also imagine that the computer they were running it on when they showed it back in 2006 was because it wasn't optimised properly so required much beefier specs.
 
stoofa said:
The usual hack eh?
Because there have been so many games released so far that are Vista only and the usual hack has been used so they will play OK under XP.
There was....wait a second....oh yes, there was....
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Firstly i think you took me out of context, by usual i mean that every windows vista only game i know of has been hacked to work on XP, because of this i consider it a pretty standard thing to happen, hence 'usual'.

As for the only two 'vista only' games i know of, shadowrun and halo 2, i have played Halo 2 on XP and a quick google shows several sources for hacks for shadowrun to also run on windows XP.

[EDIT] And before anyone considers/asks, yes i bought Halo 2 despite only having windows XP because i knew i could get it running with the hack. Shame the game sucked so much :D
 
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who cares, the people that make the OS we all run want tech to move forwards and don't want to support 5 year old os's forever and actually encourage people to buy their new hardware.

i guess that M$ is the ONLY company in the entire world to bring out something new, and want you to buy it and not want you to stay with the old thing forever.

i would say a pretty large portion of guys on a forum like this are gamers, mostly gamers who want to build their own comps. i would say a massively higher portion of people posting in the GAMING section are gamers. hands up who won't get a dx10 card............... ever? none? so who really cares if you get vista now or in a year, or 2 years. i got xp 3-4 months after it was out for the same price you can get it today. its the price of 2 games, and you use it ALL the time your computer is on.


vista is only marginally slower than Xp because it emulates dx9 and doesn't run it natively. emulation generally always incurs a performance hit when run on the same powered hardware. its actually incredibly good emulation as the performance hit is minimal. the only real cases of big performance hits were game specific long since fixed, like hl2/cs:s would default to the highest AA levels if you went with 4xaa in game, which was a common setting. so it appeared way slower, when it was only a few fps slower than the same highest AA setting on XP. vista has been fine for 3-4 months. except for nvidia, and a couple mobo makers being ultra slow with sound drivers for 64 bit vista there has been no issues. even with those 2 tiny issues my sound still worked, and so did my gfx card just a few settings were dodgey and a couple games were slower/dodgier than they should have been. thats pretty much entirely nvidia's fault.

as for wake, i'm 99% sure that the "built for quad core" talk was just your average marketing guff. everyone wants games/hardware to support the best stuff out, so it can be multithreaded, which is good, but the quad core support is likely to be gimmicky. i've also yet to ever play a game that won't give a decent framerate on last gen tech with mostly/all top settings, and also would run in 2-3 generations old tech with lower settings fine.

do we have to ask the same dumb questions and have the same dumb threads. "will crysis run well on my quad core 8800 sli" , thats about the dumbest. you'd have to have an especially bad computer to not play it at all, and you'd have to have a card more than 2 years old to not play it with at least some/most detail on medium.

games are always, have always and will always be designed to run most of the pretty settings more than well enough on common hardware. 8800's aren't at all common, not even close.
 
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