alex jones


No, because anyone that doesn't agree with the video are retarded sheep that haven't woken up to the "Truth" yet. Only those with vision and intelligence will see this "documentary" for the pure unaldulterated knowledge that it contains.
 
If he has anything like David Icke's thought processes, then take it all with a pinch of salt. If you look hard enough at clouds you will start to believe that you see faces and objects.

David Icke has been saying for more than 15yrs that the powers that be would try to introduce a single world currency on their way to global government... he said to bring it in they will need to create a problem, wait for the public reaction and then present us all with a solution:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...of-dollars-in-global-quantitative-easing.html

The International Monetary Fund is poised to embark on what analysts have described as "global quantitative easing" by printing billions of dollars worth of a global "super-currency" in an unprecedented new effort to address the economic crisis.
 
David Icke has been saying for more than 15yrs that the powers that be would try to introduce a single world currency on their way to global government... he said to bring it in they will need to create a problem, wait for the public reaction and then present us all with a solution:

OK, well that hasn't happened. How long do we have to wait? Did he specify a timeframe?


Nope, that's nothing like what David Icke predicted.

Would you like to try again?
 
So when people took the us goverment to court over Mkultra mind control and the US goverment paid up. There is one little conspiracy that people laughed at but is actually true. Not all conspiracies are drivel. And not all official facts are the truth.
 
So when people took the us goverment to court over Mkultra mind control and the US goverment paid up.

No they didn't. The only government to pay up was the Canadian government. The US government managed to get all suits dismissed.

There is one little conspiracy that people laughed at but is actually true. Not all conspiracies are drivel. And not all official facts are the truth.

I don't recall anyone laughing at the Mkultra story. When were people laughing at it, exactly? And why would anyone laugh in the first place? Mkultra is old news; it was conducted during the 60s and the US government revealed it to the public in 1975!

I read all about it when I was a kid, in a book called Operation Mind Control, which was published in 1977. Mkultra is history, and it's been public knowledge since 1975.
 
it may be history, but it shows you how the ruling class really operates, and how they have no regard for anything but their secrecy and survival.

if anyone here thinks the government is their friend then, it sucks to be you .
 
More and more people are waking up everyday! :)

Alex Jones is a bit of a mentalist but there is more truth in what he says than what we are told by our governments, that's for sure. :eek: :)
 
everything Alex Jones says is documented, i have listened to this man for quite a while and looked into everything ive heard and its all checked out.

its funny, all the criticism i ever see against Alex Jones is always personal opinion, for instance in the 8 odd years i have known of him i have never read any criticism taking a specific point he has made and then discredited it, the reason, is because they cannot. So they resort to saying oh 'hes a crazy conspiracy theorist, hes a crazy Texan, hes a redneck'

Make up your own mind, go and watch the Obama Deception, everything that is said in that documentary is a fact. Its basically all about how Obama said he was going to remove the troops from Iraq 'immediately', he wouldn't increase the size of government, he would close down Gitmo 'immediately', he would stop torture and other unsavory acts like rendition, he said he would remove a number of the Bush-Cheney presidential directives that basically give them dictatorial powers, remove illegal wiretapping and spying, how he wouldnt employ lobbyists etc..etc.. all of which he has done the total opposite, but no one cares because he is a charismatic half-black, half-white guy, who in my opinion according to his campaign contributions, is backed by the major banking elite of the world who are funnily enough robbing us, our children, our grand-children completely blind at the moment and ensuring our status as chattel slaves of the international elite for generations to come.


 
it may be history, but it shows you how the government really operates, and how they have no regard for anything but their secrecy and survival.

Well, it shows us what one government did about 40 years ago. That's all it shows us.

if anyone here thinks the government is their friend then, it sucks to be you .

The government's not my friend; but then, I don't expect it to be.
 
everything Alex Jones says is documented, i have listened to this man for quite a while and looked into everything ive heard and its all checked out.

Great, so you'll be in the perfect position to provide extensive documentation for every single one of his claims in the "Obama Deception" movie. Right?

Well, off you go then. I've got all night and I'll be here tomorrow morning to see how you're getting on. Chop chop!

its funny, all the criticism i ever see against Alex Jones is always personal opinion, for instance in the 8 odd years i have known of him i have never read any criticism taking a specific point he has made and then discredited it, the reason, is because they cannot.

Er, what? You obviously didn't read the other thread (here) in which his nonsensical fantasy world was systematically demolished.

He makes claims that he never even tries to substantiate. He just says stuff and expects you to assume that it's all true. How dumb can people be? :confused:
 
So you think the americans are not involved in mkultra.......what worries me more is that you think they stopped doing it.

why would they stop using it when it was so effective for them. And in in many many many cases it is completely undetectable by the victim due to the personality dissociative disorder or personality splits.

I doubt they use the ''name'' mkultra now. I have read of cases in the 80's and 90's. There is no way they will stop now.
 


lol, i dont usually read your posts man... im normally left with a desire to try and reclaim the time ive lost reading your pointless ramblings, but you have served one purpose, you again have illustrated the complete lack of ability to debate the facts, as i pointed out before no one is willing to man up and call out specifically what he is saying. Everything that is in the Obama deception IS documented, go and watch it, ironically its documented in that very documentary a lot of it is clips from the mainstream media but maybe that wasnt as obvious as i thought it was :rolleyes: ......

maybe you want me to document all of Endgame aswell? oh no wait, someone with the time and patience to actually entertain people like you; who dont feel the need to find out information from themselves:

http://www.endgamethemovie.com/biblio01.html

next time, if im going to reply to you and entertain a debate with you regarding the obama deception you need to man up, you need to actually go and spend the hour and a bit it takes to watch the documentary, and then take some notes, either go online or go to your library and then use your notes to actually look into the claims and then you can come back and have a proper debate.. you don't have to, i mean its only my suggestion that you put to use your cognitive functions.
 
next time, if im going to reply to you and entertain a debate with you regarding the obama deception you need to man up, you need to actually go and spend the hour and a bit it takes to watch the documentary, and then take some notes, either go online or go to your library and then use your notes to actually look into the claims and then you can come back and have a proper debate.. you don't have to, i mean its only my suggestion that you put to use your cognitive functions.

What on earth are you going on about? He's pointed out numerous holes in Jones' arguments in his other posts, and instead of coming back to him countering his points you are telling him he needs to man up, watch the documentary and then look into claims so that he can have a proper debate?

:rolleyes:
 
What on earth are you going on about? He's pointed out numerous holes in Jones' arguments in his other posts, and instead of coming back to him countering his points you are telling him he needs to man up, watch the documentary and then look into claims so that he can have a proper debate?

:rolleyes:


uhhh. i just re-read every single one of his posts in this thread and all i could find was some ramblings about how MK-Ultra is nothing to be concerned about... last time i watched the Obama Deception Mr. Jones didnt mention MK Ultra... is that crack i smell? :rolleyes:

edit: just coming back to this, so are you guys trying to tell me that Obama hasnt filled every position in his staff with Lobbyists? are you trying to tell me that he has removed all the troops from Iraq? are you trying to tell me that he has decreased the size of government? are you trying to tell me that hes revoked the illegal wire tapping? are you telling me he has rescinded a number of the PDs that gave Bush & Cheney (and now Obama & Biden) dictatorial like powers? or are you just denying reality for some personal reason? :rolleyes:
 
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I'm part of the new world order, trust me, this guys miles off, were much bigger than you could ever have imagined, and if anyone does get round to figuring it out even slightly, they will be dead before they realise it, let alone compile and edit a spooky sounding video presenting our secrets to the public.
 
So you think the americans are not involved in mkultra

What? No, that's not what I think. How the hell did you get that from my post? :confused:

I provided a Wikipedia link to an article on Mkultra. Didn't you even bother to read it? Mkultra was a CIA program, but the Canadian government willingly participated (hence the lawsuits against the Canadian government). Suits were raised against the Yanks as well, but the US government managed to get all suits dismissed.

Why don't you take some time to learn about this subject before posting about it?

.......what worries me more is that you think they stopped doing it.

Er... why does that worry you? next you'll be telling me that the Soviets are still sending kulaks to the gulags. :rolleyes:

why would they stop using it when it was so effective for them.

But it wasn't very effective. All it did was to give them a lot of information about the way human beings respond to certain types of drugs and psychological stimuli. They couldn't actually use it for anything practical. Even their attempt to devise a "truth serum" merely resulted in babbling suspects who would ramble incoherently.

And in in many many many cases it is completely undetectable by the victim due to the personality dissociative disorder or personality splits.

Eh? :confused:

I doubt they use the ''name'' mkultra now. I have read of cases in the 80's and 90's. There is no way they will stop now.

LOL! OK keyboard warrior, you go and find us the proof, then we'll inform the governments of the world and ask them to put an end to this evil once and for all! :D
 
lol, i dont usually read your posts man... im normally left with a desire to try and reclaim the time ive lost reading your pointless ramblings, but you have served one purpose, you again have illustrated the complete lack of ability to debate the facts, as i pointed out before no one is willing to man up and call out specifically what he is saying.

You don't seem to understand what a "fact" actually is. A fact is an objective, demonstrable truth. I have asked you to provide the facts which substantiate Alex Jones' claim. You have failed to provide them.

Alex Jones does not present any such facts in his little movie. He simply makes assertions and expects you to believe him. (And incredibly, you believe him!)

The person demonstrating an inability to debate the facts is you. You have no evidence, you have no proof, and you are totally incapable of formulating a sound argument.

Everything that is in the Obama deception IS documented, go and watch it, ironically its documented in that very documentary a lot of it is clips from the mainstream media but maybe that wasnt as obvious as i thought it was :rolleyes: ......

I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "documented". When something is "documented", that means it has been demonstrated to be true; it is on record as being a verifiable fact.

If I make a video in which I claim that you're a Communist dictator who eats and tortures kittens in his spare time, that's not "documented evidence"; that's me making stuff up.

And that's what Alex Jones does; he just makes stuff up. Then people watch his little movie and say "Wow, look at all this stuff I've learned from Alex Jones!" Except they haven't learned anything. They've just listened to some moron making stuff up.

maybe you want me to document all of Endgame aswell? oh no wait, someone with the time and patience to actually entertain people like you; who dont feel the need to find out information from themselves:

http://www.endgamethemovie.com/biblio01.html

next time, if im going to reply to you and entertain a debate with you regarding the obama deception you need to man up, you need to actually go and spend the hour and a bit it takes to watch the documentary

I watched the documentary and it contained nothing of substance. I waited in vain for Jones to substantiate his increasingly wild claims, but he completely failed to do this.

For example, he said that Obama had been chosen as the "puppet" of the mysterious "elites", but nowhere in his movie was there any evidence or proof for this claim. He simply said it and you believed him without question.

Frankly, that disturbs me.

and then take some notes, either go online or go to your library and then use your notes to actually look into the claims and then you can come back and have a proper debate.. you don't have to, i mean its only my suggestion that you put to use your cognitive functions.

Oh, the irony! :D
 
uhhh. i just re-read every single one of his posts in this thread and all i could find was some ramblings about how MK-Ultra is nothing to be concerned about... last time i watched the Obama Deception Mr. Jones didnt mention MK Ultra... is that crack i smell? :rolleyes:

I was responding to another guy in this thread, who started talking about Mkultra. I didn't say that it was in Jones' movie; it has nothing to do with Jones' movie. Please read the thread properly.
 
Evangelion - As much as I always admire the single-handed and direct way you always rebuff the absurd claims made by the Keltik's of this world, it always ends in the same way. He'll ignore your destruction of his argument (I use the term loosely) and then question why you haven't watched the documentary in question (which you have, hence being able to debunk it), before never answering any - and I mean ANY - of the counter questions you pose.

Majick does it, Jolie does, Teki does ... they all do it. I'm sure they're all nice, upstanding fellas but they can not answer a simple point without avoidance.

And that fact alone - even if I were to discount all the other myriad of mistruths which they often spout - would be enough for me to at best take their posts with an element of caution and at worst dismiss it as intentional deception.
 
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