alex jones

[Pete19s]

Oh dear, your source doesn't actually say what you'd claimed (surprise!)

<-- Just showing my support. Your not the only person to notice that and I have no sympathy for lazy students that just google & wiki everything.

Dont worry Evangelion and dont be dishartened by the fact that he will reply with some nonsense about you putting words in his mouth. In all honesty I dont know how you summon the strength to reply anymore. I get tired just reading the long winded and repetitive replies that get posted in response to your simple to the point questions.

 

[Sankari]

The Bank of England is owned by HM Treasury. It is a government owned company. It is not owned by a shadowy cabal of jewish bankers intend on world domination. Sorry.

Ah, but do you know for certain that it isn't?

 

[Spektor]

Oh dear, your source doesn't actually say what you'd claimed (surprise!)

Are you surprised? the entire basis of their nonsense is connecting dots and filling in blanks as they see fit, they're just fantasists through and through... you aren't going to be able to really argue against them because they're posting drivel with absolutely no basis beyond a few disconnected facts and then a truck load of conjecture and embellishment on their part. The sources they point to are just other walls of gibberish posted on some other conspiracy nutball's website.

Gullible people + the interwebs was never going to be a good mix.

 

[RDM]

Ah, but do you know for certain that it isn't?

OK, how about if I record a youtube video, put some spooky music in the background, have random clips of 9/11 and other world disastors going and do a voice over saying:

"And the Bank of England....owned, not by a shadowing cabal of jewish bankers intend on overthrowing the world but....HM TREASURY!"

Would that constitute better proof than audited documents in the public domain and the sum total of documented and researched history on the Bank of England?

 

[Sankari]

<-- Just showing my support. Your not the only person to notice that and I have no sympathy for lazy students that just google & wiki everything.

Dont worry Evangelion and dont be dishartened by the fact that he will reply with some nonsense about you putting words in his mouth. In all honesty I dont know how you summon the strength to reply anymore. I get tired just reading the long winded and repetitive replies that get posted in response to your simple to the point questions.

I've had to skip a few posts here and there out of a keen desire to maintain my sanity. And I am pretty sure I've accidentally missed one or two in the Obama thread, but to be honest I can't be bothered to go back and trawl through them all.

There's only so much you can do with these people.

 

[Sankari]

OK, how about if I record a youtube video, put some spooky music in the background, have random clips of 9/11 and other world disastors going and do a voice over saying:

"And the Bank of England....owned, not by a shadowing cabal of jewish bankers intend on overthrowing the world but....HM TREASURY!"

Would that constitute better proof than audited documents in the public domain and the sum total of documented and researched history on the Bank of England?

Z0MG U CONVINCED ME, I'M A BELIEVER!!

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

I've had to skip a few posts here and there out of a keen desire to maintain my sanity. And I am pretty sure I've accidentally missed one or two in the Obama thread, but to be honest I can't be bothered to go back and trawl through them all.

There's only so much you can do with these people.

You continue to fight the fight, my man. You do it very well and with far more patience than many of us could even hope to muster

 

[Sankari]

Thanks.

 

[Vegetarian]

Evangelion is a piece of blotting paper that just soaks up any bit of garbage that is left out.

Have you lived in other countrys - I can tell you that the so called facts reported in the UK media (net included) are not the same facts reported in another countrys. Now which media is telling the truth- someone is lying. So Evangelion the human blotting paper... are you inteligent enouth to tell use who is the truth teller or the lier? If so, are you then putting yourself up as Judge?

There is a great amount of evil people in this world - lawlessness is everywhere... these people do not care about you, they have larger fish to fry... in doing so it is easier to feed us a lie so that it is more simple for them to carry out what they do.


"For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

1 Timothy 6:10

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Have you lived in other countrys -

Yes. Several, actually.

I can tell you that the so called facts reported in the UK media (net included) are not the same facts reported in another countrys. Now which media is telling the truth- someone is lying.

Do you understand what localisation of news means? Can you also explain further on "so called facts" and which countries you're specifically referring to? Thanks

So Evangelion the human blotting paper

Blotting paper? No. Fly swatter? Yes

... are you inteligent enouth to tell use who is the truth teller or the lier? If so, are you then putting yourself up as Judge?

Not sure which part of the Bible (at a guess) you've badly paraphrased this from?

There is a great amount of evil people in this world

No argument with you on this one.

- lawlessness is everywhere...

Um, no it is not.

these people do not care about you, they have larger fish to fry... in doing so it is easier to feed us a lie so that it is more simple for them to carry out what they do.

This is probably the crux of what you imagine is your argument. If "they" are so clever why do they have to dress up their lie into something you -and only you! - can so easily see through?

"For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

1 Timothy 6:10

I too can quote irrelelavance if needed? Just let me know.

 

[Sankari]

Have you lived in other countrys

Yes I have. In fact, I was born and raised in a foreign country. I've only lived in the UK for just over 5 years.

I can tell you that the so called facts reported in the UK media (net included) are not the same facts reported in another countrys.

z0mg, u don't say?!

And guess what? Those media reports from other countries are readily available on the internet, so anyone in this country can view them at their leisure. Which I guess makes life a little awkward for the old "The UK media is hiding something from you and you'll never know unless you get out of the UK" wheeze, but conspiracy theorists were never known for their logical capacity.

Now which media is telling the truth- someone is lying. So Evangelion the human blotting paper... are you inteligent enouth to tell use who is the truth teller or the lier? If so, are you then putting yourself up as Judge?

Well, you've obviously set yourself up as judge, so why can't I? Hell, we can all set ourselves up as judges. And in fact, that's just what every sensible person does every day; examines the evidence, assesses it to the best of his ability, and draws his conclusions.

Interesting that you provide no examples, by the way.

There is a great amount of evil people in this world - lawlessness is everywhere... these people do not care about you, they have larger fish to fry... in doing so it is easier to feed us a lie so that it is more simple for them to carry out what they do.

Righto, I'll keep an eye out for them.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Evangelion is a piece of blotting paper that just soaks up any bit of garbage that is left out.

From where I'm sitting it's exactly the other way round.
It looks like you take any garbage in.

 

[Vegetarian]

From where I'm sitting it's exactly the other way round.
It looks like you take any garbage in.

Funny Ive not stated everything I believe in! So where are you getting your infomation from?

Evangelion the internet is localised now - there are many sites you cant get from country to country. Any even if you do they wont alowe you full access eg bbc iplayer in USA.

We have only the sites that the UK want us to see. Had this convo recently with some ozzies - they said they could not access Oz stuff on the internet they could get at home in the UK. Even googling showed 0 results. So to someone like you Evangelion if it does not exsist in wiki or google it then does not exsist?

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Funny Ive not stated everything I believe in! So where are you getting your infomation from?

Evangelion the internet is localised now - there are many sites you cant get from country to country. Any even if you do they wont alowe you full access eg bbc iplayer in USA.

We have only the sites that the UK want us to see. Had this convo recently with some ozzies - they said they could not access Oz stuff on the internet they could get at home in the UK. Even googling showed 0 results. So to someone like you Evangelion if it does not exsist in wiki or google it then does not exsist?

My wife's family cannot see the BBC food recipes because that part of the service does not operate overseas. They're Kiwis so can't see it, neither can our Ozzie chums. This is true. It's to do with licences and international licence to publish etc etc. None of which you know or care about, I gather :/

Just give up. It's tiresome and embarrassing for you surely?

 

[Dogoid]

too much ego in this thread and not enough co operation in truth seeking.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

too much ego in this thread and not enough co operation in truth seeking.

Just to jump through all the debating hoops : do you genuinely believe there is an equitable and harmonious outcome to this discussion?

No hyperbole or vitrol; yes/no.

 

[Dogoid]

my hope and my belief are different.

as things stand , the answer to your question is no.

but i hope for a better resolve.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

I think we all do

However, what this really comes down to is 'camps' of thought, either through experience or learning or both, and it takes a mighty force to knock that pillar down. Even to nudge it takes effort.

 

[AGD]

I would properly get involved in this thread but people like vegetarian, keltic thc etc seem so close-minded there's no point trying to convince them. How can you be so certain with only (at best) circumstantial evidence? Why do you think you believe these things and most people don't? Do you think you are more intelligent or perceptive than the vast majority of people? Or could it be because you're seeing ghosts and are less intelligent than most people?

If I truly believed there was some global conspiracy I wouldn't be arguing on a forum about it, I'd become an investigative journalist or politician to try and see for myself first-hand what was going on.

I don't think it's surprising that people who believe in one conspiracy tend to believe in many - it's a mindset.

 

[Dogoid]

camps of thought as you put it is rarely based on logic , more based on path of least resistance, i,e what belief is already held.


too much work to actually change a paradigm or belief set.


most people don't care what's true or false, all they care is what's easiest.

that's because most people hold complex lives, kids, school, taxes, work, debt, etc etc.


its certainly not an age of the philosopher or truth seeker.