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memphisto

memphisto

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Having just seen another thread closed in here and a few members suspended for comments made I feel it is time that we in SA calmed down and start to let our heads rule our hearts when posting in here otherwise we may all find ourselves in trouble.

We all know that this is a passionate pastime of us all but the last thing I want and I am sure you all want is to lose accounts over arguments and insults.

Therefore I suggest we all try to calm it down and start to try and understand others points of view and opinions, otherwise the forum itself could find itself in danger.


So I think its time we all take a step back, and think before we post from now on.
 
Originally posted by Jazz
i dont think they should be banned i think that this one got out of hand, most of it was basically footy arguement but some personal insults came into it right at the end and ruined it.

Id say most of it was a good thread and people were just putting their points accross
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agreed mate however it tends to get heated on the point of insults very very quickly nowadays especially where Man Utd and arsenal are concerned. This tends to at some point boil over to insults.

I have noticed a rise in other things as well such as saying people are just being silly, stupid etc etc, these are not in essence insulting but they are derogatory depending on the way people take things like this.

All of this eventually adds up to insults been thrown as some of the threads are just like volcanoes waiting to explode. Some of these never quite reach critical mass some of them do but it is all of them we need to keep an eye on before others are suspended, banned for it.
 
the flaming did calm down a lot but it has got back to the levels it was before over the last few weeks.

I dont think not posting to threads or posts that annoy you is the answer theough jazz.

Taking a step back thinking about it then posting with a clear head would be much better than a quick emotional response to a post that you find annoying if you know what i mean ?

that is where I know I have been going wrong as I read something get angry / annoyed then reply.

I have a feeling this is what a few others do as well. This is letting our Hearts rule our heads and I am probably the worst for it I know that but I am going to make a far more concerted effort to stop doing it from now on

Honest

:p
 
I dont think we need another don or more donnie presence to be fair Afterlife.

What we do need is a lot more sefl control on our own parts. I mean this forum is very close knit everyone knows everyone most of us have been here long before the big nuke and consider each other friends.

This is not a forum where a lot of spammers are, not a froum where there are in my view any trolls, we are just all extremely passionate about the game of football, and like i previously stated in many instances our hearts rule or heads.

We should really be able to moderate ourselves in here as we all know each other and we are all friends (i think) Cem is there when things get wildly out of hand, he leaves us to moderate ourselves a good proportion of the time as we dont not need moderating and are able to do it for ourselves. If a donnie was here almost 24 /7 I dont think the forum would be as good as it is now as there have been instances where I have gone back and edited my posts as I'm sure others have as I have realised what I said was too far.

If a Donnie was here always we wouldn't have that oppurtuniyt and I think in the long term the forum is far better of for the way in which Cemetary runs it. By having more presence I feel would stifle the banter and the arguments and lead to the detriment of the forum. However there is a limit to what we should write, post etc and it is up to ourselves to control not only each other but ourselves as well.
 
i agree Davey but there are certain bits of "banter" that really do annoy me regardless of whatever else is posted.

I hate it when Man Utd are referred to as Manure, The scum, scummers etc etc

this to me is showing a blatant dis respect for the supporters and the fans. so regardless of what is posted when this happens I immediately start getting angry.

I think that all teams should be called by there full names or a accepted shortening and not to derogatory terms as that just makes matters worse.

Other things I can think of Are Arse, Gooners etc but most of this seems to be directed at Man Utd.
 
Originally posted by dirtydog
I have been known to refer to Arsene Whenger as Whinger I admit ;) I guess that's in the same category.

Would it be possible for us all to agree to call our teams and managers by their proper names (or accepted abbreviations) or is that naive of me :) ie. no more Manure, Arse etc. ?
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I think that is a very good idea mate

Davey I wasnt refering to you I was tlaking in general about how some people refer to teams and this in my view contributes to arguments etc quite a lot.
 
erm I dont think referring to Man Utd as united is disrespectful if it is in a thread about Man Utd and say arsenal merely shortening the name, but in threads where other teams are involved with the same second name it probably is although I certainly cant remember that happening very often.

Calling the team scum, scummers or manure on the otherhand is a definite derogatory term same as Arse, Gooners etc It is these I think the forum would be better without as I think were all grown up and mature enough to call them by there real names.
 
erm in reference to man utd being called scum

Gilly you saidsomething along the lines of not caring really what names we come up for any other team and cem you said you dont mind the term scum being used although you wish it wasn't correct so far ?


well remember before the big nuke ? remember when for about two weeks I stopped referring to leeds utd as leeds utd and instead began referring to them as retards ?

I was warned not to do it again, if what has been said here etc is to go by i should be allowed to call any team in the PL by anything that I like because I am referring to the team and not to any individual poster, but as i was warned i started calling them thuggery utd.

In reality I much much rather to refer to teams by there correct names or accepted shortenings, I would prefer to call leeds United, leeds, leeds United etc or Arsenal Arseneal or the Gunners etc etc

the need for some people to use the derogatory term scum and or scummers in reference to a football team in my view is a personal insult to each and every fan of said team regardless of the reason for it.

If you take football half way seriously everyone is going to be offended by having there team there players, there compatriots and there manger referred to as scum.

If you disagree then fair enough but all I can see happening is an influx of derogatory names for all other teams which would make this forum a far worse place.

And to be fair by not banning or asking for us to use the terms for each individual team the forum is asking for this to happen.

There are probably a good proportion maybe one quarter of the regular posters or more that are man utds fans, at least two of us have remarked that this greatly offends us and we wish it to stop within the forum.

I sincerely hope that it does
 
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Originally posted by Davey_Pitch
Agreed, there are a few posters here who take things far too personally when an "insult" is very obviously meant in jest, thus resulting in heated posts leading to true flaming.
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that may well be true mate but one mans joke is another mans insult.

To answer Gilly there are a few newer posters thinking about it who have been involved in the two or three most heated threads recently, one in particular but I dontthink there has been an influx of Man utd fans more an influx of Man Utd Haters.
 
Gilly I'm not gonnaname names but there at least 3-4 that have come on ranging from in the last couple of weeks to just after BN

There are a few more Man Utd supporters however as well at least 2-3 I can think of from the top of my head. But seeing as though basically everyone who doesnt support Man utd on here either hates them, has a strong dislike or loves getting digs in it kinda does outnumber the Man Utd supporters somewhat.
 
Originally posted by Gilly

And for me scum goes nowhere near the line, never mind crossing it.
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well it obviously goes across the line for a number of us Gilly and im not surprised it doesnt get near the line for you as you asnd your team aren't the ones called it.
 
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