All iPhone 5 speculation/rumours/wants thread

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sbi5ar said:
I think the screen could possibly become smaller...
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Never going to happen. All of the UI controls are designed for a 3.5" screen. Any smaller and a lot of the UI (i.e. the virtual keyboard) would become unusable. A smaller screen would be a whole new UI and would compatibility break with existing apps.

A bigger screen could work but it seems unlikely unless Apple removed the home button.
 
MikeHunt79 said:
While the restrictions do seem intrusive, I doubt the iPhone would work as well as it does if everything was open, and also I doubt that there would be as many developers...

That said, if you really like Android I remember seeing an article where someone put Android on to an iPhone...
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That is the argument but I also see it as a case of revenue protection. The locked down nature of the iPhone and iPad and also if Steve has his way the iMac devices is primarily to maintain a captive customer base. The user experience is secondary IMO.

I like android so much that I got an HTC Desire and I personally think it's the best gadget I have ever owned. It would take a serious restructure of the nature of Apples business ethic for me to go back to an iPhone. There are a significant number of iPhone users that I know that are not going to go down the Apple path again. From a gadget lover perspective I do have a very stong admiration for what Apple and Mr Jobs have created and always enjoy seeing what they come up with. I'm just not terribly inclined to pay them for the privilege of using them.

Apple have a serious habit of creating devices that subsequently define the next 12months of device development and as such I hold them in high esteem. It's how they then choose to deliver their devices to the end user that ultimately lowers my opinion of them.
 
Seems I'm in the minority wishing for a slightly bigger screen. It's only because although the screen is stunning, the text crystal clear and sharp, in most cases it's too small so I have to zoom in anyway!

When compared side by side with the Desire HD, I much preferred the screen on the iphone 4 but the text was so much more readable on the HD holding both phones at arms length.
 
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment - I could upgrade my plan and stick to the same £ that i'm paying now, getting the iPhone 4 for free as well - and having just as good a contract.

Or I can wait for the iPhone 5 - my contract ends in April though, so it would be before the iPhone 5 came out.

Finding it hard what to choose, as I can't see it being a major upgrade!
 
Bucket said:
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment - I could upgrade my plan and stick to the same £ that i'm paying now, getting the iPhone 4 for free as well - and having just as good a contract.

Or I can wait for the iPhone 5 - my contract ends in April though, so it would be before the iPhone 5 came out.

Finding it hard what to choose, as I can't see it being a major upgrade!
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Its only a couple of months, I'd hold out
 
SteveOBHave said:
The locked down nature of the iPhone and iPad and also if Steve has his way the iMac devices is primarily to maintain a captive customer base. The user experience is secondary IMO.
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Apple have always put user experience* above all else (well apart from profit!) and the Wall Garden that people, especially Android users, see as a bad thing is simple part of delivering the best (in Apple's view) user experience.


* Just look at the accessibility support in OS X and iOS.

I like android so much that I got an HTC Desire and I personally think it's the best gadget I have ever owned. It would take a serious restructure of the nature of Apples business ethic for me to go back to an iPhone.
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I've had a Google Nexus One and even with 2.2 the Android experience for me was not a good one. I simply like the way iOS, er, "just works"

What business ethics do you dislike that Apple do? As far as I can see they do better than some businesses when it comes to ethics - look at their green policy for example.

Or is it simply the usual rattling against the walled garden?

From anecdotal evidence I see more and more iPhones rather than a static or decreasing number in the wild. So many I get sick of seeing them! :eek::D
 
theheyes said:
The only thing I find underwhelming on my iPhone4 is the camera. It's okay for a smart phone, but it's still pretty pants as far as cameras go. The problem is they are never going to sacrifice the form of the phone for the sake of taking better pictures, so it's probably always going to be average.

I think the iPad2 is going to give us a lot of clues about what to expect from the iPhone5. It makes sense to keep parity between the two.

I also think the iPhone5 might be the start of Apple dropping backwards compatibility for major iOS versions altogether, i.e. iOS 5 for iPhone5 only.
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How can the camera be underwhelming if its ok for a smartphone, I'd say it was pretty good for a smartphone. I doubt theres that many cameras on any sort of phone that could quite compare to a proper camera.
If you want a decent camera use a proper digital camera.
 
SteveOBHave said:
That is the argument but I also see it as a case of revenue protection. The locked down nature of the iPhone and iPad and also if Steve has his way the iMac devices is primarily to maintain a captive customer base. The user experience is secondary IMO.

I like android so much that I got an HTC Desire and I personally think it's the best gadget I have ever owned. It would take a serious restructure of the nature of Apples business ethic for me to go back to an iPhone. There are a significant number of iPhone users that I know that are not going to go down the Apple path again. From a gadget lover perspective I do have a very stong admiration for what Apple and Mr Jobs have created and always enjoy seeing what they come up with. I'm just not terribly inclined to pay them for the privilege of using them.

Apple have a serious habit of creating devices that subsequently define the next 12months of device development and as such I hold them in high esteem. It's how they then choose to deliver their devices to the end user that ultimately lowers my opinion of them.
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I agree that a lot of it is down to revenue protection, but it's not just for themselves it's also for their app developers, which may explain why there are so many apps for the iOs platform.

I did try one of those San Francisco phones, but the lack of audio apps (ie NONE!) and a few other thing lead to me getting an iPod then an iPhone... So I've gone the other way... I don't really mind the restrictions too much, now that things like audio copy/paste between apps is starting to catch on it's making things better... but there's still room for improvement.
 
LordSplodge said:
Apple have always put user experience* above all else (well apart from profit!) and the Wall Garden that people, especially Android users, see as a bad thing is simple part of delivering the best (in Apple's view) user experience.


* Just look at the accessibility support in OS X and iOS.



I've had a Google Nexus One and even with 2.2 the Android experience for me was not a good one. I simply like the way iOS, er, "just works"

What business ethics do you dislike that Apple do? As far as I can see they do better than some businesses when it comes to ethics - look at their green policy for example.

Or is it simply the usual rattling against the walled garden?

From anecdotal evidence I see more and more iPhones rather than a static or decreasing number in the wild. So many I get sick of seeing them! :eek::D
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Keeping in mind this is my personal view. I find the whole shepparding of applications and heavy restrictions on sources for applications to be distasteful. Far from relaxing these controls Apple is seeking to expand them into the laptop user experience. I personally think that they are covering the ringfencing of application sources under the guise of retaining a better user experience. They have that but at the expense of the freedom to source apps from elsewhere and to modify the user experience to a more personalised point.

Fundamentally I guess it is rattling against a walled garden but I personally think it's justified.
 
allosunshine said:
How can the camera be underwhelming if its ok for a smartphone, I'd say it was pretty good for a smartphone. I doubt theres that many cameras on any sort of phone that could quite compare to a proper camera.
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The iPhone's software does way too much post-processing on the images, no doubt to mask deficiencies in the actual hardware.

The problem is that if you want a decent camera (i.e. on par with the Nokia N8) then you're looking at a much thicker phone.
 
MikeHunt79 said:
I agree that a lot of it is down to revenue protection, but it's not just for themselves it's also for their app developers, which may explain why there are so many apps for the iOs platform.

I did try one of those San Francisco phones, but the lack of audio apps (ie NONE!) and a few other thing lead to me getting an iPod then an iPhone... So I've gone the other way... I don't really mind the restrictions too much, now that things like audio copy/paste between apps is starting to catch on it's making things better... but there's still room for improvement.
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Yeah the San Francisco is a demonstration of what is bad with some implementations of Android and specifically the fragmentation of the OS into variations on the UI. Apart from the HTC Sense skinning of Android has more detriment to the overall experience rather than adding to it. Of course the advantage of Android is the massive modding community that exists and subsequently the vast variations on OS that are available.

Regarding music on Android there is a stunning app that (having owned quite a few apple devices) kicks seven shades out of the iPod/iPhone music implementation IMO. It's an app called PowerAmp and utilising a graphic equaliser and a few other nice things like gain boost and base and treble tweeking allows for sound that far exceeds anything I used to get from my iPod Touch.

Android is still a young OS and there are many things going against it (not the least being fragmentation in handset capabilities and variations in OS versions) but being a geek and loving to tinker I like to have the opportunity. On the other side of the coin there is much to be said for a standardised user experience and the stability to accompanies it.
 
It would NOT surprise me if it was just a small cosmetic change, to be fair other than a higher A chip (like A5 maybe) with more RAM/GPU I don't see much changing.

The screen is amazing, camera is good. What else is there to amaze people?
 
Read a rumour somewhere that the iphone 4S/5 would have the home button removed so im guessing there might be a bigger screen.

Personally I'm hoping for themes and widgets. I'm still using 3GS so cant comment on iphone4 features.
 
AmTechFox said:
It would NOT surprise me if it was just a small cosmetic change, to be fair other than a higher A chip (like A5 maybe) with more RAM/GPU I don't see much changing.

The screen is amazing, camera is good. What else is there to amaze people?
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This is what I see as well.

I don't think it will be a massive upgrade at all
 
The iPhone 5 will have a different form factor to the iPhone 4

WSJ: "Separately, Apple is also developing a new iPhone model, said people briefed on the phone. One person familiar said the fifth-generation iPhone would be a different form factor than those that are currently available… it was unclear how soon that version would be available to Verizon or other carriers."

This has since been backed up by reports from Engadget we reported on 17 January 2011, which state the design will be a 'total rethink'.

The iPhone 5 specs will be evolutionary, not revolutionary

According to the Chinese Economic Daily News (via AppleInsider), with the exception of Qualcomm chipsets - which would replace the current Infineon chipsets in the iPhone 4 - Apple's sticking with the same suppliers for the 2011 iPhone 5G components.

We'd expect the basics of the iPhone 5 specs to get a bump - more memory, faster processor, more storage - but DVICE quotes a single insider who claims to have handled Verizon prototypes.

The specs? A new antenna, 1.2GHz processor and a larger screen: 3.7" instead of 3.5". The iPhone 5 may also be made from a new kind of alloy, or maybe meat.

However, we're also hearing word of a multi-core design, in keeping with the rest of the mobile world, as Apple looks to improve both battery life and performance.

The iPhone 5 will also get a massive graphical boost as it moves to a dual-core GPU - this could herald true 1080p output from the new device, according to our news story on 18 January.

The iPhone 5 specs may include a digital wallet

There's been some speculation that Apple might include Near Field Communication (NFC) technology in the iPhone 5G, turning it into a kind of credit/debit card. However, as Techeye.net notes, "Apple has looked into NFC before" so this might not be imminent.


iPhone 5 set to be 'completely redesigned'
Possibly running new dual-core chipset too
By Gareth Beavis

January 17th

The iPhone 5 set for new chassis?


Clues about Apple's forthcoming iPhone 5 have been leaked online, claiming that the new device will have a new powerful CPU and feature another redesign.

Engadget is quoting 'extremely accurate' sources in saying that not only will the new device land in the summer (in line with every iPhone launch for the past few years) but Apple will be looking to keep the iPhone 5 at the sharp end of mobile technology.

To that end, we can expect to see Apple's new A5 CPU, an ARM Cortex A9 chipset, which will be multi-core, enabling much better battery life and even more power from the fruity phone.

Total rethink

And despite redesigning the chassis of the iPhone for the first time in its life with the iPhone 4, Apple is set to have 'a total rethink from a design standpoint' for the new iPhone 5.

The other big rumour is Apple is apparently thinking of moving away from using Infineon chipsets for the GSM radio (the part of the phone that connects to your mobile network) and shifting to Qualcomm – feasibly due to the connectivity problems which plagued the last iPhone launch.

It's not a lot to get excited about at the moment, but if true, it will likely once again leave those that snapped up an iPhone 4 on a two year deal cursing their decision in June.

All sounding good! ;)
 
Lots of good info there :D

I hope the total redesign still looks slick. I really liked the iPhone 4's slightly more corporate design style and I hope they don't try and sacrifice function for form with some new ****** style.
 
Yeah we'll probably get the iphone 4S in black and white early this year to avoid there being a spec gap between the newer android phones and the iphone then an iphone 5 near christmas possibly? or even the following year.
 
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