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I'm considering changing on my model 3 performance (I think 235/30/20) so a bit tricky on choice. Am I mad for considering them for year round driving? Living near hull for reference.
All seasons over summer tyres (for all year round)
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**Unofficial Tyre Thread**
The amount of tyre requests/questions we get on here I thought I would put together an unofficial tyre thread to reduce the amount of new threads that arise. So I'm after 2 new front tyres in 225/40/18, and I want Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - (225/40 R18 92Y XL). Cheapest I have found so...
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personally i believe All Season Tyres work for me in the south
if your the type of person that don't want to swap to winter tyres every year or no storage space for them and when the temps drop below zero or a snow covered road (when we get it) you feel rather scared to go out in it like me, then do your self a favour and get some
6 years in and I'm not changing back
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out of curiosity has anyone here with an EV ever swapped from summer to all season?
my ipace currently has Goodyear tyres on there and I think they are summer. the cost between those or all season is the same all bar a few quid I am just wondering how much of an effect it will have on my range. if it's only a few percent I may bite.
my ipace currently has Goodyear tyres on there and I think they are summer. the cost between those or all season is the same all bar a few quid I am just wondering how much of an effect it will have on my range. if it's only a few percent I may bite.
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I had a quick look earlier and on blackcurclws there's only 1 to choose from and it's 340 quid compared to 250 
. As I'd have to change all 4 I think I'll leave it.
. As I'd have to change all 4 I think I'll leave it.
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I ran Bridgestone all seasons on my Toyota Yaris all year round for several years. Never had an issue on the hottest of summer days but they were noticeably better in very cold frosty winter days.
That wasn't a performance car by any means but i did use every one of its 74bhp and never found the tyres lacking. They were a lot more confidence inspiring in the summer than the Chinese ditch finder summer tyres that came on the car when i bought it.
I got about 50k miles out of a set but it was a very light car, only issue i noticed was they were a bit noisy when cornering hard, like piling into a roundabout you'd get quite a whirring noise from them but they were fine going straight or gentle corners.
That wasn't a performance car by any means but i did use every one of its 74bhp and never found the tyres lacking. They were a lot more confidence inspiring in the summer than the Chinese ditch finder summer tyres that came on the car when i bought it.
I got about 50k miles out of a set but it was a very light car, only issue i noticed was they were a bit noisy when cornering hard, like piling into a roundabout you'd get quite a whirring noise from them but they were fine going straight or gentle corners.
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What problem are you trying to resolve? There seems to be mass hysteria around tyres in winter when in fact normal summer tyres are perfectly adequate and often the better choice. I get that some people semi regularly encounter snow and cannot adapt their plans therefore need a snow capable tyre. But most people don’t.
I had all season tyres on a couple of cars and whilst they were somewhat better at taking the XC70 across a grass field, they were measurably worse at pretty much everything else for most of the time. Noisier, less efficient, more expensive to buy, longer braking distances, worse aquaplaning resistance.
I had all season tyres on a couple of cars and whilst they were somewhat better at taking the XC70 across a grass field, they were measurably worse at pretty much everything else for most of the time. Noisier, less efficient, more expensive to buy, longer braking distances, worse aquaplaning resistance.
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it's rather a pandoras box ?
I'd have to pay more money in tyres, but, if it provided noticeably more secure handling on a rwd car for 6 dark evening'ed months of the year with ~10C damp road temperature, especially on country road sections,
could be money well spent
I'd have to pay more money in tyres, but, if it provided noticeably more secure handling on a rwd car for 6 dark evening'ed months of the year with ~10C damp road temperature, especially on country road sections,
could be money well spent
Which ones though as, like with summer tyres, they are not all made equal. Going from Bridgestone Potenzas on the Leon I can't relate to any of your first three issues with them. My long term fuel economy seems the same, road noise is a little better and the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons I went for were priced a little less than most branded summer tyres at the time.
They possibly don't feel quite as tight cornering wise... I don't know, it's hard to tell as I normally have stuff in the car that I don't want being launched side to side or a toddler I don't want to give whiplash to. On a bog standard 125 bhp car with torsion bar setup at the rear it is never going to be testing the limits of grip anyway.
I personally notice a positive difference on icy / frosty roads and muddy country roads so it isn't just about the 3 days of snow per year.
For comparison I used to run winter tyres Nov > March. Now those you could tell a difference on.
Horses for courses and all that. The Leon and my wife's Polo sit on all seasons (Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons and Michellin Cross Climates). My MX5 which only goes out on sunny days between March and October, obviously not.
I think the latest models even come with all seasons from the factory don't they?
A common misconception with all seasons is that they are draggy and reduce range / increase fuel economy. That isn't true, in many cases they have less rolling resistance.
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I use all seasons on my other half’s Fiesta.
Why?
Better winter grip at the cost of slight performance in summer.
IMO you need better performance in the edge scenarios, I.e. cold wet weather.
In the summer, most mid range tyres and above are already good enough to stop you quickly. In the winter though is where good quality tyres can really showcase their added performance.
Why?
Better winter grip at the cost of slight performance in summer.
IMO you need better performance in the edge scenarios, I.e. cold wet weather.
In the summer, most mid range tyres and above are already good enough to stop you quickly. In the winter though is where good quality tyres can really showcase their added performance.
I put Goodyear all seasons on mine at the end of last year and was going to swap them out for some Pilot Sports when the weather gets warmer, however I'm not sure I'm going to bother now as it means having to store a set of tyres somewhere and faff about getting them swapped. Whether or not I feel the same when we're having a heatwave in the summer is a different matter though!
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I like the Crossclimate 2s on my RWD Model 3. Supposedly a summer tyre with winter elements. Efficiency didn't change after they wore in and they have been predictable in colder weather. Starting to lose some grip at 3mm as to be expected but still good.
Easy choice would be to go for another set but I might try the Hankook iON evo or the e.Primacy next.
Easy choice would be to go for another set but I might try the Hankook iON evo or the e.Primacy next.
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Googleyear Eagle Sport are All seaon and also low rolling resistance, its one of the good updates from MY21.
I've exclusively used summer tyres all year round on most of my cars. I have Michelin Pilot Sport 5 all round on my RWD BMW 428i and haven't had any trouble at all and I live in central Scotland. It's been as low as -4 some mornings and we even saw -9.5 last winter, again no issues. I drive to the conditions and don't go crazy on the loud pedals in bad weather.
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I had Cross Climates on the ZE40 with no appreciable difference from the factory Michelin EV specials
I've put Hankook KINERGY 4S2 on the rear of the Niro, and while I did notice a slight drop in range (maybe 5-6%), I did only have them fitted in September - e.g. when it started getting colder, so could easily be explained by that!
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thanks everyone for all the feedback.
I just looked at the tyre it even. says eagle sport all season on the tyre. no idea why I thought it was a summer one.
given the incredible longevity of them and the fact they seem to handle really well I think my choice is a simple one.
I just looked at the tyre it even. says eagle sport all season on the tyre. no idea why I thought it was a summer one.
given the incredible longevity of them and the fact they seem to handle really well I think my choice is a simple one.
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Treadwear is another misconception with all seasons. They often have a better wear rate than summer tyres.
For most people a good quality summer tyre will be fine even in light snow or ice. The better ones don't noticeably lose performance until temperatures get down to freezing either unlike the low end through to mid-range stuff which can often noticeably change at around 7C or below. All-seasons I'd consider if you are for example commuting a long distance to work or like myself often doing back roads which may be untreated and potentially required to be out any time of day or night or weather. Even if it is only 1-2 days a year that can mean nothing else cuts it.
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