Alternatives to Apple Macbook Pro M5

The power consumption of Strix Halo is pretty similar to M4/M5. There is a 8 x Zen5 core version (AI Max 385) which has 32GB of RAM and that's been widely sold in mini PCs. There's also 12 core versions but I haven't seen anyone use those.

Anything which uses a discrete GPU can't compete with Strix Halo or Apple M4/M5 for battery life - you're using the entire power budget of both of those APUs on the discrete GPU. A Ryzen AI Max+ 395 board will max out at around 140W in "performance" mode which is less than the 5070Ti mobile uses on its own. Go to integrated graphics on the 5070Ti laptop to match the battery life/power budget and both the Apple and Strix Halo parts just blow it away.

Horses for courses and there's bugger all choice in laptops with Strix Halo which isn't helpful.
There is a lot of generalization and assumption there, whilst you can go up to 140w you can actually do more with a lot less and in T&L machine, something like say a G14, the 5070Ti is capped at 90-110w, the CPU has 4 Zen5 and 8 lower power Zen5c, so all depends on your work flow and what you are doing, any video stuff for example even a 5060 would batter Strix Halo blimey the 5050 in my Gram would give it a run for its money, it is all about knowing what you are using, how you want to use it and having the right tool for the job, same goes for battery life, again my laptop as a dev machine is shown to last longer on battery than a Macbook despite larger screen etc and being lighter, it may not be more efficient, it does this as a byproduct of having a larger battery :D but do you care if you get a lighter more portable machine that last longer, nope. Again, it’s about knowing your goals and buying the tool that fits those.

This is why when the OP is asking, the suggestions given are what are you doing with it, that is the only way you can get to the right answer which is probably an Apple device, but alternatives were asked for.

Strix Halo is awesome, I want this quite bad as some one who wants a light machine that can do a lot of gaming with little power, basically for me I need to run all the things off of my travel charger, the one charger to rule them all :D it tops out at 100w per port, but Strix halo is not the right tool for everything and certainly not at its price, it opens itself up to lots of competition, particularly if you have a gaming slant.
 
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There is a lot of generalization and assumption there
Indeed there is, there always is because we're talking about lappies and options are always limited :)

The answer to the thread is to stick with a Macbook - and this has nothing to do with performance or similar. I simply can't see anyone who has primarily used any other OS for a number of years being happy with Windows 11.
 
Strix Halo is awesome
Its staggeringly good. I originally got one through Framework (don't is the tl;dr) and it went back. New one (Corsair) arrived today and the chip is a monster wrapped in a 140W package.

For those who need a gaming comparison its a 4060/4070 GPU. Its PS5 standard/1440p gaming at best.

For compute - 128GB of quad channel 8000MT DDR5 is quite something (Threadripper in your palm etc) and they're not wrong.

Power - these 16 "full-fat" Zen5 cores, 128GB memory plus graphics idle at about 7W package on max performance. That's what "sea-of-wires" gets you - no serdes overheads. 9950X probably idles at around 35-50W.

We're off-topic but Strix Halo is going to become more expensive so I'd put it on your "get a move on santa" list ;)
 
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I got fed up waiting for something nice to launch with it, with the new constraints and its AI capability I doubt anything will, so I picked up an LG Gram with a 65w 5050 inside instead, someway off SH in synthetics but actually a decent ~1080p gaming card like the SH with the benefit of DLSS for the larger screen so I can wait until the next gen of SH now, though I did almost buy the Apex handheld because it can be water cooled when docked for an extra 50w in silence and I like to water cool all the things. :D But 2K on a toy, at least with the Super X it was a useful 2in1 even if I would be sacrificing a proper keyboard and screen size but i survived on a 10.95" X1Pro for the longest time.
 
Pretty much all this is a moot point if buying today as the Asus Zenbook 32gb, Ultra 7 (255H which is the quicker one), OLED 2k Touchscreen is available £699 at the moment. £799 then £100 extra discount. [ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - Intel® Core™ Ultra 7, 1 TB SSD, Ponder Blue]

At that price, any loss in performance etc etc etc is completely offset by the bargain price + with the 2k not 3k screen battery life is pretty good.

This is normally closer to £999 with the Ultra 9 (285H) at £1100-£1300 [now £999]
 
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