Am I at Fault or the Lorry Driver

Glacius

Glacius

Glacius

Associate
Joined
6 Dec 2013
Posts
500
Hey All,

Just after some advice really regarding a small incident I had on the road this week, I will let the video do the talking:


After having to go up the curb here it has scuffed both my wheels and I have only just had them powder coated, also and not sure what part of the rear of the Lorry/forklift it could have been but I have a scuff mark on my lower drivers door as well.

Is it worth contacting the company about this? or are they just going to laugh this off. In one hand the lorry should not have been indicating to go right on the roundabout and be in the right hand lane and then proceed to go straight over, but on the other I guess I shouldn't have gone round the outside even if I thought he was going right.
 
I don't see any painted lines (and you were behind him) so you will be deemed to be at fault matey. You seemed very eager to squirt up the inside without being certain the guy was committing to a 3 oclock or whatever continuance on the roundabout.
 
I would say it's a bit of blame on both sides, lorry should have indicated and made his intentions a bit clearer, but I think you should have left more room, lorries tend to take that line across roundabouts as it's not as tight for them. I always stay behind them until it's 100% certain where they are going or there is a gap that isn't going to close.
 
Personally with a lorry like that and the manner it was driven* I'd have held at the position you were at at 17 seconds in the video until I knew what he was doing for definite.


* I can understand the approach but it is possible to take that line with more consideration for other road users.
 
bit of both perhaps - yup he shouldn't have indicated right when approaching the roundabout and also if going straight on on a standard roundabout (unless markings state left turn only) he should have been in the left hand lane - however it also seems he indicates left, just after the left turn thus showing he intends to go at the next exit, before you start to overtake him, you didn't notice this:

ak09Ttm.png
 
Tough one that, he should not really have been indicating right but on the other hand he has clearly indicated he was taking that junction after he passed the first exit.

I would contact them and see what they say.
I would also advise you are a bit more cautious around lorries. Those few seconds hanging back could be life or death
 
Hmm all very true, I guess the moral here is I should have waited more patiently and just take the damage to wheels and car door on the chin then.

I will email them to see what they say and go from there, I am guessing the chances of them being a nice friendly company and offering anything will be slim but as mention I guess this is a 50/50 issue.

Thanks for replies though and I will copy the reply here if I get one.
 
Yup fault on both sides. Not too sure why you accelerated towards him after you clearly held back on the approach to the roundabout :confused:
 
Mainly because after that there was what seemed plenty of room and never thought he was going to be going straight ahead, guess I just saw him in right hand lane with right hand indicator on and thought that was that.
 
I would say you are at fault but to be fair the driver did not seem to indicate his intentions. But coming up the inside when it may well be a two lane roundabout but that exit is single and the lorry certainly would not have taken the inside line to get round on to that exit.
Undertaking a 40' lorry is never the wisest thing to do.
 
I think the lorry was indicating right approaching the roundabout in the right hand lane, so you could expect him to turn right not go straight ahead. However Always expect the unexpected. If the damage is not worth going through insurance I'd forgive and forget.
Andi.
 
Yeah it sucks. I nearly got wiped out on a motorway by a truck driver so give them a wide birth / approach with caution every time now
 
Road is only marked as one lane, so you've effectively overtaken on the inside on a roundabout exiting into a bend where there's no lane for you. You're likely in the drivers blindspot if that inside mirror is looking back at his load as he turns left out of the roundabout. Really, there was no room to do what you were attempting, and the road is marked for one. You might have got away with that if undertaking a car that was staying out wide as it left the roundabout, but not from the back of a big lorry like that. You drove into a closing gap where you had no right to be and where you couldn't see around the bend.

The lorry driver probably was as surprised as you were that you would try throwing it up the inside there.
 
Well damage wise my front passenger wheel has a 4-5 inch curd mark on it now and my drivers lower door has a 6" x 2" section with literally no paint on it, I remember hearing a scuff/scrape but didn't think it was much and assumed it was the curb and wheel noise when I hit it but after getting out it looks annoyingly bad.

I will live and learn and see what response I get from them no harm in that I guess. Seems as though I need a slap on the wrist then :rolleyes:
 
You both made a bad decision, it's all well and good us judging both parties on said decisions when we have the benefit of hindsight. These things happen.

Always give lorries space for the "avoidance of doubt" where possible.
 
Glacius said:
Well damage wise my front passenger wheel has a 4-5 inch curd mark on it now and my drivers lower door has a 6" x 2" section with literally no paint on it, I remember hearing a scuff/scrape but didn't think it was much and assumed it was the curb and wheel noise when I hit it but after getting out it looks annoyingly bad.

I will live and learn and see what response I get from them no harm in that I guess.
Click to expand...
Im not saying dont get in touch but depending on what sort of company they are, you could be held at fault and a claim against you.
My wife nudged the back of another car while in her X5, our car sustained nothing, not even a scratch to the number plate, theirs had a slightly bent bootlid which I offered to get put 100% to their satisfaction. £17800 later they claimed for whiplash and damages. Not everyone out there is honest.
 
brendy said:
£17800 later they claimed for whiplash and damages. Not everyone out there is honest.
Click to expand...

This annoys me immensely as ultimately it just screws it up for everyone. Colleague had similar in a car park recently - offering to pay out of pocket to rectify a scrape - the other person tried to lump them with a massive bill for all kinds of work. In future they said they won't bother leaving their details/owning up.
 
Rroff said:
This annoys me immensely as ultimately it just screws it up for everyone. Colleague had similar in a car park recently - offering to pay out of pocket to rectify a scrape - the other person tried to lump them with a massive bill for all kinds of work. In future they said they won't bother leaving their details/owning up.
Click to expand...
My wife carried on her daily and went shopping after the school drop off, walked intothe shopping centre at the same time these two bellends (one a pensioner too) sauntered in, nothing wrong with them but the daughter, a nurse "told" her mum she had whiplash, they had been to solicitors and hospital faster than I could call them back the next morning. Absolute scumbags.
 
brendy said:
My wife carried on her daily and went shopping after the school drop off, walked intothe shopping centre at the same time these two bellends (one a pensioner too) sauntered in, nothing wrong with them but the daughter, a nurse "told" her mum she had whiplash, they had been to solicitors and hospital faster than I could call them back the next morning. Absolute scumbags.
Click to expand...

Almost sounds like they'd set it up and knew what they were doing :s sadly crash for cash type stuff is not uncommon.
 
This is why you don't try to overtake on roundabouts, especially lorries. Enough people don't know how to use them that it's just a lottery half the time which exit a car might take from any given lane.

You've put yourself in a risky position for no real reason or benefit.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom