Am I on 21CN?

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

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Hi guys,

As you know I have a ridiculously long line with over 63db of noise as I'm a good 6-7km from the exchange. 21st December my ISP contacted me to say they were moving me to the 21CN network 'within 5 weeks'.

Anyway, today I've noticed my router is synced at 2336 Kbit. This is a HUGE improvement on anything I've had before. I got 1.5mbit if I was lucky before.

How do I tell if they've put me onto 21CN yet or not? I cant do any speed tests because they are throttling me at the moment (see previous threads...) but it would be good to know if i'm on it or not. Once I know 21CN works I'm going to order with O2 LLU...

Also, this is with my crappy old Thomson Speedtouch router. Would I see even better speeds with a Netgear DG834 running DGteam firmware? I've got one on the way...

Thanks!
 
Where abouts will it say this? As you can tell, DSL is not my specialist subject :D

It's an ancient Thomson Speedtouch 580i running stock firmware. If I'm not on 21CN yet then...

a) Where has this sudden increase in sync come from?
b) Will it get even better with 21CN?

Thanks :)

DSL Flavour = ADSL over POTS
Reserved Bandwidth (kbit/s) up/down = 448 / 2336
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This would suggest not?
 
Indeed, it looks like you're on ADSL. Without before and after stats it's difficult to say where it's come from.
You might or might not see an improvement with ADSL2+, but probably won't see anything significant.
 
You are probably wondering why I am making such a fuss over a lousy 1mbit increase but when youve been stuck on 1.5mbit thinking you were never going to get any better its pretty special :D
 
Upload also suggests not - "20"CN ADSL1 is usually fixed at 448kbit on residential lines - whereas on 21CN upload will run upto ~1.3Mbit - mine usually syncs somewhere between 928 and 1152kbit.

Would need to see your line stats again to see if the netgear would manage a higher sync... 2.5Mbit was the max possible from your stats in the previous thread - its possible something has changed locally thats reduced line noise.
 
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As said by others, until you show data before and after it is difficult to say if you are or not.

The speed could have improved though if cables have been removed, or old connection terminals have been changed, as it has been proven to improve the broadband if changed.
 
GregI said:
21CN has nothing to do with O2 and if they can supply you with LLU.
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It will give me an indication of whether my line can support ADSL2+ properly. If it can, O2 said they will place a manual order for me (My line fails the auto checks and it wont let me place an order online).
 
Which SP is it you're on at the moment?

If you want to drop me an email to my trust address - I might be able to help you out.

For what it's worth though, of the long lines I've seen on ADSL2+, they haven't seen much of an improvement overall.
 
I'm currently with Plusnet.

To be honest I've resigned myself to tolerating my speed - its as fine as its ever going to get. I want to get rid of traffic shaping and limits though, so this means moving to ADSL2+ LLU :)
 
[TW]Fox;15737991 said:
I'm currently with Plusnet.

To be honest I've resigned myself to tolerating my speed - its as fine as its ever going to get. I want to get rid of traffic shaping and limits though, so this means moving to ADSL2+ LLU :)
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Or just cough up for a decent provider, the LLU providers won't be free of shaping and capping forever, their networks are no more limitless than anybody else's and as more and more heavy users move to them they'll reach capacity (and charging £25 a month isn't a model which gives much room for investment later).
 
Andrews and Arnold have some pretty decent products now - aslong as you can live with the meagre monthly allowance from 9am to 6pm.
 
Well unshaped means capped usually, which I feel is a better approach as it's more transparent to the user and doesn't discriminate on protocols. Good few providers offering that if you look around.

If you actually want unlimited, unshaped then it means either one of the remaining small ISPs who offer that (there are a few if you look) OR paying a lot to Zen for their unlimited product (about £70/month as I recall). Yes it's expensive and I expect you aren't interested but it's actually the only sustainable business model going, you simply can't currently fund network expansion on £25/month per user if you allow unlimited usage unfortunately.
 
I am actually not that bothered about download limits if there is an offpeak allowance. My henious crime which caused Plusnet to ruin my connection was to download a whole 20gb at peak times. This was an unusual month as well - normally I download only about 15gb in peak times.
 
Samknows can't tell him if his particular line has been moved over, only if the exchange as been enabled. Plusnet would be able to tell him though.
 
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