AM2 or C2D ? again. (SORRY)

Justintime · 24 Mar 2007 at 00:31

I do a lot of video editing and rendering, have seen my 6400 @ 3Ghz wipe out my 165 at 2.6Ghz on the same file by about 30mins, have games that gave me a bit of trouble at high res with my x1900xt 512mb on my previous 165 rig but go smooth as butter on my core 2 with the same card (transfered over). Its just faster generally in everything, i don't bother with boot times and benches, its real life that counts.
BTW i'm an AMD fanboy, but when somethings better and costs about the same or less i'd be a fool not to. Hoping AMD will come up with something worth the hype!

Dwbreeze1982 · 24 Mar 2007 at 00:40

ive already bought my ram, have case , hdds and stuff just need a good mobo and cpu, mobo has to have loads of satas as i already have 4 drives on sata and2 on ide.

Berserker · 24 Mar 2007 at 00:50

DS3 has 6 SATA. If that isn't enough, there's the DS4 which has 8.

Just done a C2D upgrade myself. I haven't regretted it.

Dwbreeze1982 · 24 Mar 2007 at 01:02

sorry been looking at intel c2d boards and processors

Nymins · 24 Mar 2007 at 10:17

gtir666 said:
why isnt am2 gonna last long ?

It wont last long because every C2D is better than any AM2 overall. Even the new X2 6000+ will be easily beat by C2D. There is no point in buying old, out-of-date hardware and having to upgrade later. May as well do it now.

Kamakazie! · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:30

Nymins said:
It wont last long because every C2D is better than any AM2 overall. Even the new X2 6000+ will be easily beat by C2D. There is no point in buying old, out-of-date hardware and having to upgrade later. May as well do it now.

For a start AM2 is a socket. This socket will support AMD processors well in to next year. The first of these will be released in the 2nd half of this year and should be decently faster than C2D. Get your facts right.

Since no one else has asked:
Will you be overclocking?
Presumed you are based on your sig, but you never know.

If you won't, then for the same money in the low end, at stock speeds AMD are faster.
An AMD 4200+ at £88 is basically on par with the 6300 at £119 across the board.
Everyone on here is so overly loved up on C2D that they forget about being objective.

If you are overclocking then there is no doubt that you should get a C2D.

Dwbreeze1982 · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:42

at last someone who is not a c2d lover i hate it. amd are great processors and u have just made my mind up to stay with amd as i hav found the ultimate board and cpu for my needs. cheers kam

Zefan · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:46

Dwbreeze1982 said:
at last someone who is not a c2d lover i hate it. amd are great processors and u have just made my mind up to stay with amd as i hav found the ultimate board and cpu for my needs. cheers kam

Wasted money.

Sorry but it's just a fact. It's exactly like someone saying "Hi, I'll give you that car you're thinking about buying but with an extra 300 BHP, and for less money." and you turning it down.

Dwbreeze1982 · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:48

well its my choice , i like the system i have chosen for upgrade reasons. dont like intel probably never will :mad:

Nymins · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:51

Well do what you want, but LGA775 will last a lot longer than AM2 cause of Quad Core.

For a start AM2 is a socket. This socket will support AMD processors well in to next year. The first of these will be released in the 2nd half of this year and should be decently faster than C2D. Get your facts right.

And i know fine rightly that AM2 is a socket. C2D wipes the floor with X2 when compared with their counterparts. X2 3800+ vs E4300/E6300. X2 has no chance. X2 6000+ vs X6800. Core 2 again owns it. Heck the E6600 eats the X2 6000+, which is currently the fastest Athlon out. And you honestly think that the new AM2 chips will beat the Quad core LGA775?

Zefan · 24 Mar 2007 at 12:56

Dwbreeze1982 said:
well its my choice , i like the system i have chosen for upgrade reasons.

What reasons? To get the most out of a better AMD chip you'll have to get a motehrboard with the yet to be released socket anyway.

stickroad · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:03

Theirs no two ways about it Core 2 Duo speed + Money = so much better deal over AMD AT THE MOMENT.

I really dont get this fan boy AMD/INTEL business, surely if your upgrading, you would get the best chip out taking into account your budget.

Zefan · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:07

stickroad said:
surely if your upgrading, you would get the best chip out taking into account your budget.

You would think?! It appears some people care too much about being loyal to their company of choice :\ It's not as if they care about who they sell to, AMD simply aren't giving you a good deal so why reward them?

You have to remember this is how companies learn, Intel realised that the P4 architecture was shoddy way before they changed it because people continued to buy it. It was only when there was a mass exodus to AMD 64 (Seeing as it was better) that they got off their arses and made something good. The very same thing has now happened to AMD, Intel have trumped them. I can only hope the failure of a now ancient architecture makes AMD wake up and release something decent for the first time in years.

If you just keep on buying their product, they'll never change it.

Rib_Tickler · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:09

I seem to have caused a bit of friction. Sorry. But thanks for all the advice.

stickroad · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:13

Exactly. So you Fan boys out their, take AMD for instance, if you could get a (lets make something up) AMD FX 90 clocked at 2.8GHZ and then an Intel 2.8GHZ, exactly same speed, but the AMD chip was 150 pound more would you still buy the AMD chip?

Kamakazie! · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:16

Dwbreeze1982 said:
at last someone who is not a c2d lover i hate it. amd are great processors and u have just made my mind up to stay with amd as i hav found the ultimate board and cpu for my needs. cheers kam

Read what i said carefully, if you are wanting to overclock heavily then i would still get a C2D.

If you are not, then at stock and at the low end, AMDs are just as fast and sometimes faster for the money than the C2D equivalents.

Nymins said:
Well do what you want, but LGA775 will last a lot longer than AM2 cause of Quad Core.

AM2 is getting quad core and should be compatible with DDR3 processors next year...
As soon as Intel goes for DDR3 you will need a new motherboard. AM2 will most certainly last longer than LGA775. Seriously, do some research before making statements like that.

Nymins said:
And i know fine rightly that AM2 is a socket. C2D wipes the floor with X2 when compared with their counterparts. X2 3800+ vs E4300/E6300. X2 has no chance. X2 6000+ vs X6800. Core 2 again owns it. Heck the E6600 eats the X2 6000+, which is currently the fastest Athlon out. And you honestly think that the new AM2 chips will beat the Quad core LGA775?

Again, do some reasearch. At stock the 4200+ is roughly equivalent to the 6300 and it is £40 odd cheaper.
At stock, the 6000+ is pretty close to the E6600.

Like i said, if you are gonna overclock it is a completely different matter. That is why i actually asked if he was planning on overclocking. The rest of you dont and just instantly say C2D. It is not always that simple, some people should think about that.

Kamakazie! · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:17

stickroad said:
Exactly. So you Fan boys out their, take AMD for instance, if you could get a (lets make something up) AMD FX 90 clocked at 2.8GHZ and then an Intel 2.8GHZ, exactly same speed, but the AMD chip was 150 pound more would you still buy the AMD chip?

No way. Unless i already had a mobo for the AMD which cost £150.
Then its the same price for the same performance.

Kamakazie! · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:18

stickroad said:
Theirs no two ways about it Core 2 Duo speed + Money = so much better deal over AMD AT THE MOMENT.

When will people learn. AMD are not a good deal for those that are overclocking. For people that do not want to do this (and there are plenty of people that don't). Then AMD is still hugely competitive on price v performance.

Kamakazie! · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:19

Zefan said:
What reasons? To get the most out of a better AMD chip you'll have to get a motehrboard with the yet to be released socket anyway.

It is highly unlikely that HT3.0 will make a difference in terms of speed over HT2.0 in single socket configurations.

Zefan · 24 Mar 2007 at 13:21

I see your points, but do they need to be in individual posts

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