AM2

milkinc13 · 17 Sep 2006 at 16:30

Can someone give me an idea for a good AM2 motherboard and the RAM, i'm thinking of getting the x2 4200, the motherboard must have a parallel port as the printer I have uses a parallel port.
thanks
Phil

milkinc13 · 17 Sep 2006 at 18:44

Some gaming, but nothing to taxing at the mo, most taxing game i've got at the mo is NFS most wanted, and a copule of other racing games. i've been lookong at the Nforce 5boards. i've currently got 2GB of RAM so am looking for the same ammount again.

milkinc13 · 17 Sep 2006 at 20:39

Simple reason I'm not asking for conroe is that I don't like Intel, i had a P3 and the performance was totally rubbish, so that has turned me away from Intel. Currently i've got an Athlon 64 3000+ & it's brill, it does what I want. If AMD still had the best performance what would you tell me to get AMD or Intel. Just because Intel have the faster this and that at the mo, doesn't mean that AMD isn't good. I've had 2 AMD systems out of the 4 computers that i've had. (1 was an IBM computer, so i'm guessing it had an IBM processor, and the P3) and the performance has been good for what I want. So i'm sticking with what I know.

milkinc13 · 17 Sep 2006 at 20:58

I hear what you are all saying, but I'm not one for the fastest processor, I buy what i see I need with some overheads for a bit of future proofing. Also i'm spending my money on what I want. Give it a few months to a year and AMD will have the edge over Intel, then u'll all be saying go for an AMD over Intel. I don't use the computer for ripping video and encoding it as I don't need to, the only encoding I do is for MP3's to WMA's to allow extra space on my MP3 player. Yes I like speed on my games, but most of that is from the graphics card as that needs to encode all of the images.

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 16:15

Kamakazie! said:
Can't people just offer relevant advice to someone who is asking for it?
Why do people see the need to enter the full blown "GET THE INTEL ITS THE BESTEST" debate over and over again.

If the guy is not overclocking then the 6300 offers LITTLE over the 3800+ especially considdering the guy is not going to be doing much encoding. Did any of you ask if he was going to be overclocking? Errr.... no!

He wants a bit of future proofing, the AM2 motherboard should last him well in to 2008 with new processor upgrades. Can't say that Intel has confirmed this so i don't know what it will be like with a DS3.

If you want overall low power consumption for a computer that is on most of the day, the 3800+ will consume less than the 6300. At full load the 6300 sucks less power but pretty much any other time and especially at idle the 3800+ uses much less power. Lets face it, a computer on 24/7 is probably going to be at idle far more often than full load!

There are plenty of Intel users here who ONLY buy Intel. Regardless that AMD has been king for the last few years. If this guy wants to buy an AMD because it is an AMD then that is his choice. It is his money. Regardless that as i mentioned above, there may be other reasons for him to go AMD currently.
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As for answering the original question. Get a 3800+ as it is stupidly good value for money, regardless of the 6300. At stock its a close race in performance/£.
Motherboard wise.... well i have solely looked at Crossfire motherboards because i want as low power consumption as possible with as high performance. I am going for the MSI K9A Platinum. The other option was an Asus something or other but after plenty of good reviews regarding the MSI then i plumped for that one.
For nForce 5 mobo's.... well Asus has some very good ones out that i have seen reviews (The Crosshair and some other). There are loads to be honest. My main advice, look for some reviews and decide on a few boards that you like the look of. Then ask back here with the specifics.

But you haven't offered any advice relevant to his question, the thread has just been dumped on like pretty much every AM2 thread that pops up.

Are you having a laugh? Most modern games are totally GPU limited at any decent resolution.
There is nothing wrong with his reasons, it is his money. Why will he be wasting it? As i have listed above, there are quite a few reasons why a 3800+ is a perfectly good choice, if not a better one.
He hasn't asked for any advice about getting a Conroe, which is the advice you have offered. If you offered adivce relating to his actual question then he probably would be more willing to accept it.

It's the same people in every AM2 thread that can't just answer the posters question. It always has to turn in to an Intel love fest. Can't you just leave the poor guy alone or offer him some info related to what he wants?

Thank you Kamakazie!, you are the only person that has read what I want and not jumped on the "Get Conroe" boat. Thank you.
I've been looking at the
"MSI K9N Platinum nForce 570 (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (MB-070-MS) £76.36". Can anyone give an idea of some good RAM, currently I have "Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200C2PT" and am looking for something similar but obviously in DDR2, with 2Gig.

The system I'm planning on getting cnsists of:

Thermaltake VC3000SWA Armour Jr SuperMidi Tower - Silver (CA-038-TT) £76.32
Western Digital Raptor X 150GB WD1500AHFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-073-WD) £172.71
Western Digital WDSC50RCW Secure Connect Serial ATA Cable (CB-000-WD) £7.05
Sony AW-G170AB2 18x DVD±RW x12 Ram Dual Layer DVD-Writer - (Black) OEM (CD-054-SO) £22.27
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2.20GHz (Socket AM2) - Retail (CP-168-AM) £135.11

I just need to sort out the graphics and PSU, but appart from that i've got everything I need

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 17:51

Basically I have chosen the raptor as it's a clear top & i think it would look good in the case, being sat next to the clear pannel, and at the mo space is no problem I have a Caviar 160GB IDE and if i'm using 40gig at the mo i'm using a lot or space. lol

any ideas on the ammount of power that the system would be using up, currently i'm still looking at a gd GPU in the £175 sub category.

THanks for all of your help guys.

P.S sorry if I have started an argument within the forum. Sorry

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 18:16

I like the look of the "OCZ ModStream 520w ATX2.2 Power Supply (CA-017-OC)" it's 520W so should be more than powerful.

Also any good RAM with a total of 2gig i'm looking at corsar, ut there's are expensive. are there any other makes that have similar performance and hopfully cheaper than corsair.

thanks for you help guys, i never realised how hard it is to do a self build, i have an idea of what I want, but with so many makes, it's hard to chose which one

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 19:03

Jules just read what you've said and have changed the mobo to the "MSI K9A Platinum Crossfire (Socket AM2)" I don't realli want to any Over clocking for fear of really doing some damage to it, I no there's nothing ot worry about, but me with the luck I sometimes don't have i will OC it on a bad day and regret it, thou I did OC me old CPU when I had 754 (thank you evesham for the 939 upgrade

) it was the same processor the 3000+ and i took it from 2Ghz to 2.2 with no problem

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 19:41

easyrider exactually, what is £25 when building a new system. As far as i can see i've got na idea of the system, hope I havn't missed anything off of it, so here goes:

Thermaltake VC3000SWA Armour Jr SuperMidi Tower - Silver - £76.32
Western Digital Raptor X 150GB WD1500AHFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - £172.71
Western Digital WDSC50RCW Secure Connect Serial ATA Cable - £7.05
Sony AW-G170AB2 18x DVD±RW x12 Ram Dual Layer DVD-Writer - (Black) - £22.27
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2.20GHz (Socket AM2) - £135.11
MSI K9A Platinum Crossfire (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard - £93.94
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail - £140.99
OCZ ModStream 520w ATX2.2 Power Supply - £64.61
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-5400C4 TwinX (2x1GB) - £164.49

milkinc13 · 18 Sep 2006 at 19:53

my printer is on parallel port, it's an old canon (5 years old), touch wood i've only had one problem with it and that was that it wasn't picking up the paper so a clean on the paper pick up rollers and it's still working, althou this problem accured after working faultless for 3/4 years. I wouldn't change it for anything at the mo appart from going to a HP, but with there new cartridges there a con in them selves, I work in a cartridge re-fill shop so am well aware of the tricks the companies use to get you to spend more money, and the new HP's are nutorious aswel as the Lexmarks I won't say no more, on that otherwise i'll get into trouble from the companies.