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AM4 gets yet more CPU's

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8 years after launch of the AM4 socket they are still pushing out new CPU's for it.

Ryzen R7 5700X3D, 8 cores 16 threads @ 4.1Ghz with 96MB of L3 Cache.

Its the same CPU as the 5800X3D with 400Mhz lower clocks and $50 cheaper, $250 vs $300, the 5800X3D is currently selling for £290 so this should come in at £240 to £250

Expected availability 31/01/2024.

Some budget CPU's added to the stack.

Ryzen 5700, 8c 16t: $175
Ryzen 5600GT, 6c 12t: $140
Ryzen 5500GT, 6c 12t: $125


 
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ALXAndy said:
It's to do with security. My keys are all tied to my MS account, which I have had since the late 90s. I understand why they do it, but 30 days? what do they expect you to do ffs? just go without your PC.

Daft. Any way, apart from an issue with PUBG it is all done now.
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They hope you just buy a new Windows key... that's the strategy these days, inconvinence the customer as much as possible, call it a security measure, but if you buy a new key you get instant access to your OS and all of the private data they saved.
 
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Wing-Man said:
hahaha 30 mins on an automated call yesterday to use my son key on a new motherboard, the key was not OEM but assigned to a different motherboard.. and a few times i thought they just want my to hang up and buy a new key
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yup.... and you did the right thing, they more you inconvenience the staff they have to pay for them inconveniencing you the more it costs them and the more they hate it, the more people do that the more this cynical idea becomes a very bad one.
 
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As you know if you have a full retail key that key belongs to your account, not the first system its activated on, that's an OEM key, that's what you buy from CDKeys for £15 or whatever it is, as long as your not running it on many systems at once you can use that key for as many different systems as you like.
 
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If i get an RX 7800XT should i be be joining you..... ?

I have a Ryzen 5800X, i'm glad i did despite having paid £440 for it at the time, the alternative was the even more expensive 10900K which every reviewer bar one had it tied or slightly ahead of the 5800X, that left the door open to people saying the 10900K was probably better in the long run because Intel vs AMD in gaming.

The truth was every reviewer had the GPU bottlenecking the CPU, bar one, that one was Anand Tech, probably the last reviewer willing to dig deeper than the surface, they took the GPU bottleneck out of the equation, benchmarking at resolutions of 720P, even as low as 360P if necessary to take the GPU out of the equation, because if what you want to know is how fast the CPU is in games making the GPU the limiting factor is completely useless, you learn nothing at all.
Anand had the 5800X beating the 10900K convincingly in gaming, i got what i needed to know, thanks to Anand.

I bring that up because Anand was ridiculed for using low resolutions to get to the data they thought people wanted to know, because for the first time in a long time CPU's had gotten powerful enough to feed the fastest GPU's at the time at 1080P, knowing that is useful for making decisions for the long term, for when mid range GPU's become faster than the fastest at the time.
So don't let anyone, especially any tech jurno tell you you don't need to know more than the information they are willing to give you, and i have seen some of the say you only need to know what is relevant on the day.

So...

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Zen 2 was a good all round CPU, but it was not the best gaming CPU, tho i think the 3700X has aged a bit better than the 8700K (not on this chart) it was up against at the time. definitely worth dropping a 5800X3D in that socket.

As for my 5800X, it still holds up quite well, i think, its not worth changing the platform for a DDR5 one and with the 7800XT being a 3090 sort of GPU it still look's viable according to this chart.

It'll be 4 years and counting that the 5800X has served me well, i think i will keep it for a bit longer :) Thank you Anand.
 
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It would have to be an 8 core minimum. 8 Real cores that is. I'm not bothered about anything productivity, anything i do like that is not time sensitive, but i do want the threads for game future proofing.

It'll be Zen 5 at the earliest that i'll be upgrading.
 
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