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AMD 1600 vs 2600k

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looking at a downsizing from my current full atx case to a MITX build and its as good a time as any to get a cheeky upgrade in as it means a new mobo anyway.

looking at the following as a quick and cheap upgrade



My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £375.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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obviously the CPU will be an AF rather than the AE above (just in as a place holder)
but i'm curious how will the 1600 stack up against my 2600k in gaming? which is about the only strenous thing this rig does. at 1440p with a vega56)

tbh it does obviously change over to much faster ram ddr4 rather than ddr3 (3200 vs 1866) and a few other features like NVME support as well but it does feel more a sidegrade than an upgrade consdiering my sandy is happily running rock solid at 4.8ghz under water

a smaller rig with newer features would be nice but should i just hang fire and get a beefier cpu rather than what seems like a bargain little chip?
 
There's nothing stopping you from selling the 1600AF down the line and getting an 8-12c chip when you feel the need. Ryzen prices have been pretty reasonable, and we've seen some good price drops for last gen chips (you can get a 2700 for £120 now for example).
 
233 said:
looking at a downsizing from my current full atx case to a MITX build and its as good a time as any to get a cheeky upgrade in as it means a new mobo anyway.

looking at the following as a quick and cheap upgrade



My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £375.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​



obviously the CPU will be an AF rather than the AE above (just in as a place holder)
but i'm curious how will the 1600 stack up against my 2600k in gaming? which is about the only strenous thing this rig does. at 1440p with a vega56)

tbh it does obviously change over to much faster ram ddr4 rather than ddr3 (3200 vs 1866) and a few other features like NVME support as well but it does feel more a sidegrade than an upgrade consdiering my sandy is happily running rock solid at 4.8ghz under water

a smaller rig with newer features would be nice but should i just hang fire and get a beefier cpu rather than what seems like a bargain little chip?
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This is my review of a Ryzen 5 2600 in a mini-ITX system:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/cats-mini-itx-ryzen-5-review.18833557/

I compare it to my previous Xeon E3 1230 V2/Core i7 3770.
 
It's £123 for a 2700 with free game that can be sold to bring the price down to near 1600af levels, consider if the extra cores are likely to be of benefit to your workloads for the minimal price difference.
 
Avalon said:
It's £123 for a 2700 with free game that can be sold to bring the price down to near 1600af levels, consider if the extra cores are likely to be of benefit to your workloads for the minimal price difference.
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oooh now theres an idea :)
 
My mate has a Ryzen 7 2700 and the stock boost profile is horrible as it throttles a lot - you need to overclock it. They have it in the Gigabyte B450I and overclocking is noticeably worse than the B450 Gaming AC they had it in before. The best B450 mini-ITX motherboards for Ryzen are the Asus B450I I have or the MSI B450I,as they have the best VRM and VRM cooling of the bunch of them. Also unless you intend to go for a larger mini-ITX case,the smaller cases will run much hotter,meaning more noise and higher temperatures,especially if you use a non-blower cooler graphics card.

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My Ryzen 5 2600 with the wraith spire cooler stays at between 3.65~3.9GHZ consistently,even under heavy load.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
My mate has a Ryzen 7 2700 and the stock boost profile is horrible as it throttles a lot - you need to overclock it. [...]
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Those profiles are interesting, it looks like the 2600 was optimised for gaming and the 2700 was optimised for efficiency (especially multi-threaded) and productivity, which supports what I read about it. It lends an explanation for why the 2700 power usage in games is often lower than or equal to 6 core CPUs too, since it stays in a lower, optimal range for the architecture. If I remember right, gamersnexus had the 1600 AF maintaining a 3.6 Ghz boost frequency, which if applies for all cores is going to make it really similar in performance in most games to the 2700.

233 said:
but i'm curious how will the 1600 stack up against my 2600k in gaming? which is about the only strenous thing this rig does. at 1440p with a vega56)
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I'd agree that at those clocks this is more of a sidegrade, personally I'd want at least the higher performing 3600. You could wait until the price drops, but I think memory is supposed to go up this year, so if you were to wait, you could end up paying the saved money on the 32GB memory.
 
Just got a 1600AF myself and it might just be my favorite piece of hardware I've purchased in my 22 years building PCs :) Talk about value for money!
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
My Ryzen 5 2600 with the wraith spire cooler stays at between 3.65~3.9GHZ consistently,even under heavy load.
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I've just changed the Ryzen's 2600 stock Wraith cooler with an aftermarket one, its a lot cooler, 26C idle atm however it still sits at a peak 3.65GHz boost speed when gaming.Really was hoping it sustains 3.9GHz.I've noticed it spikes to slightly higher boost clocks when the CPU is <35C for a brief moment.
 
nthlord said:
I've just changed the Ryzen's 2600 stock Wraith cooler with an aftermarket one, its a lot cooler, 26C idle atm however it still sits at a peak 3.65GHz boost speed when gaming.Really was hoping it sustains 3.9GHz.I've noticed it spikes to slightly higher boost clocks when the CPU is <35C for a brief moment.
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The stock cooler is the Wraith Stealth and it runs much hotter than even the Wraith Spire,which I replaced it with. Temperatures were 20C lower and the boost upto 100MHZ higher too when I was running heavier multicore loads.
 
It does look like i have a lower binned Ryzen 2600 compared to your "golden sample" chip as it suppose to hit its advertised boost clock of 3.9GHz non OC.I guess i'm in the same boat along with the Ryzen 3000 series users as they too reported low boost frequency speeds.
 
nthlord said:
It does look like i have a lower binned Ryzen 2600 compared to your "golden sample" chip as it suppose to hit its advertised boost clock of 3.9GHz non OC.I guess i'm in the same boat along with the Ryzen 3000 series users as they too reported low boost frequency speeds.
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It won't sustain 3.9GHZ under multicore load - it stayed at around 3.65GHZ,but under lighter loads it used to hit its rated 3.9GHZ max Turbo. Also another factor will be the motherboard. The best way to test it is in a lightly threaded game.
 
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