AMD 7600x temps.

[sastusbulbas]

Just wondering if there is an average I should be seeing.

Since installing Windows and using the PC more, I have changed to the Arctic Freezer 36 CPU cooler, sitting here downloading a few games, browsing the forum, and seeing the CPU sit at around 80c seems a little high. Fan settings in Bios were on silent, GPU was around 41c.
I upped the motherboard fan settings to standard, now hearing the fans but temp still seems high at 75c-80c while a game installs. Now the game just completed install the CPU has dropped to 46c and system is near silent again.

Fitted the Freezer 36 with a pea sized blob of Noctua thermal compound. Case is an H500 with two Arctic P14 PWM up front, an Arctic P12 PWM in the rear, Arctic P12 PWM in the roof just behind the CPU cooler.


Bear in mind I have came from old 4770k CPU's running idle at around 30c odd with Noctua and BeQuiet coolers. So is this simply normal for AMD systems on air?

 

[sastusbulbas]

Will need to wait until the weekend and try a few synthetic benchmarks.

Only downloaded a few games, not actually been looking at temps as it's really just came together. Now that the PC is sitting where I can see it, well the motherboard display shows CPU temp hence me noticing therefor checking temps.

Been some years since I ran any sort of benchmark, think the last time is when the GTX 1070 came out. Apart from Cinebench, are there a couple of others I should run?


I should add, I bought a Sapphire Nitro 9060 XT 16gb, I got impatient, but could not justify a 9070xt or 5070ti when we may have Supers after Christmas, therefor some lower prices on mid tier, as well as new GPU's rumored for the second/third quarter next year. So it may be a short term GPU, it may also be all my old games need.

 

[sastusbulbas]

Ran the Cinebench multi-core test for 10 minutes start to finish. 14266 points and the CPU temp reached a highest point of 95c.

Seemed to have no issues and quite smooth.

Case and CPU cooler fans are PWM running off motherboard and set to it's standard profile. Gentle whirr really even when at 95c, not much noise at all in comparison to my old PC.

 

[sastusbulbas]

The system is running stock.

Simply the Artic Freezer 36 with both fans connected to the CPU fan header with the motherboard standard settings for the fans, no tweaking.

According to Google the 7600x should be hot under load?
As for throttling, well it never seemed to hang up or stutter during the test, but to be honest I just let it run while I was on the phone so not sure how it would look throttling.

It isn't the best case, NZXT H500, but the fans didn't get loud in any way during the test.

As for undervolting, well we can leave that until it's looking green across the board at stock.

 

[sastusbulbas]

Well a quick search on Google says the 7600x should be hitting 85c to 95c during cinebench and heavy loads, as it's designed to do so.

Seems to be a few articles on it even with AIO's and people repeatedly refitted AIO's before it's confirmed as normal.

But the uncertainty is why I'm here. It's been my 1st new build with up to date hardware for many years.

 

[sastusbulbas]

Disagree with hitting 95°c, sorry. 70-80°c before a negative curve I can get onboard with. And you mention browsing forum and downloading games, shouldn't be near 80°c. That's crazy. It's your first build, so are you sure the paste is good and cooler is mounted correctly?

The cooler was mounted carefully, it's Noctua paste. It's not a cooler I was happy with though, as its a late revision with plastic mounting brackets. I may well re-fit this, maybe even use one of those Thermalright AM5 Contact plates. It's not my 1st build, it's my 1st new AM5 system build, though technically it's on it's second cooler as previously it ran Linux for a month with a GTX 1050 and Be Quiet Pure Rock 3. Though I never looked at temps then.

You can disagree all you want about hitting 95c, the crazy thing is that this is a PC forum, and that 95c is actually AMD's figure and a quick Google browse shows it's a common temp. Crazy that so many here are disagreeing with AMD and the internet and the reviews of the CPU. Apparently many under-volt and there are videos regarding this two years back due to it on average hitting mid 90's on Cinebench and coasting around mid 40's even with an AIO.

So I am running it stock and seeing the same temps new owners with their 1st purchase of the 7600x saw.

Currently playing games while using the internet and it's sitting at 50c.

 

[sastusbulbas]

Believe it or not I am trying to help you. If you want to sit at Tjmax. Go for it. AMD set that as their max. But you'll be getting reduced voltages and clocks as it throttles, and probably premature silicon aging. You would hope though, given I've owned a 2600x, 5800x, 7600 and now 9700x, that I'd be able to assist get that temperature down to the 70-80° zone. As I say, if you feel happy with how it is though, then that is fine. Ta.

Sorry, maybe I am reading you wrong, I thought you were saying it's not normal for the 7600x to be hitting 80c while it downloads a 40gb game and browses the internet and Youtube while on a forum. And I thought you inferred it's not normal and no one should be seeing 95c when using Cinebench with a stock configuration 7600x

I am all for help, but so far a number on this thread seem to be claiming that what AMD, Google and current users of the 7600x have with temps doesn't happen or is a fault. Despite it showing as common and how the CPU operates on Google. So it seems some infer I built my PC wrong, or have a fault, therefor should be worried about the PC therefor are contradicting what is being stated or experienced by others on Google.


When I created this thread I had not actually seen the original reviews or Cinebench results of the 7600x, I certainly had a moment when I seen 80c considering I never seen such temps with my old systems. Reading many of the comments actually had me worrying I had a fault, until I looked on Google, and realized many on here commenting simply are contradicting the statements on Google, therefor may be as clueless as I am.

So you can disagree with it hitting 95c. But it's a fact that it's common for the 7600x, I only know this now because of the Internet showing it's an average experience and common regardless of cooler for 7600x users running stock and running Cinebench. If you disagree with it being acceptable, well yeah, I do plan on learning a little more about undervolting and tweaking the BIOS to reduce this as I would like to run it cooler.
I had already looked at it a little for the 9800X3D as it seemed common for that CPU to be undervolted, I have now bookmarked a couple of articles regarding reduced bios settings for the 7600x.


I do not want to sit at TJ max all the time, it is simply what the CPU does at stock settings apparently under short intense loads or benching, not my words, but what shows on internet searches. It isnt hitting anything like those temps all the time.

So clearly I am not happy with the temps, but also not happy with people stating its a fault and never happens or should not be happening, when a quick search shows it's actually common and I should not be getting stressed about it.
I now know I can play around with some settings in Bios, and this may well be worth trying, I can also re-seat the cooler or fit a Thermalright contact plate if it helps, as it costs nothing. But will have to leave this until next week.

So far all the PC has done is play basic games at 4k and 1080p just to gauge the budget GPU performance, the most intense thing the CPU has done is Cinebench. I cannot say I have experienced any slow downs, throttling, or issues despite gaming for hours on end or running Cinebench, but again, I doubt I would know what to look for in Cinebench as an example of throttling.
I cannot say I am disappointed with the cooling or noise, considering its £22 worth of fans with a £30 CPU cooler in an NZXT H500 renouned for bad cooling. It initially ran with all CPU and case fans on silent config in bois, I only changed to standard fan config in bios when I seen 80c and still it hardly makes any noise. I have not even played with fan profiles or limits as is suggested for AMD too. So that is something else I will look into at some point.


In contrast I can stick my old 4770k with an RX-590 XFX Fatboy in a Fractal Pop Mini Silent and occasionally see it shut down due to temps playing games at 1080p or 1440p med to low settings while sounding like a demented hairdrier about to take off as it's Viper fans attempt to cool things.


SO from what I have seen looking at Google, it is common for an AMD CPU to hit 95c during Cinebench, and anyone claiming its a fault doesnt know what they are talking about. But i is also common and possibly good practise to undervolt these CPU's as it lowers temps and can increase performance, which sounds great.
As Google and a number of videos state.
To increase performance and lower temperatures on a Ryzen 7600X, undervolt the CPU using the Curve Optimizer in your BIOS to a negative offset. Additionally, ensure good cooling by setting a custom fan curve for your CPU cooler, consider reducing the thermal throttle limit in the BIOS, or manually lowering the power limits (PPT) for a more powerful yet cooler system.

And this does sound better than stock and seeing 95c even if it is what AMD designed. As I like the idea of quiet, cool and not wasting too much voltage and my PC having a long happy life on an air cooler.


Hopefully I have not insulted you, maybe I read your post wrong.