AMD 9070XT VR good idea?

Vimes said:
I take your point, but I really do feel that gamers, as a whole, are just not as relevant for Nvidia at this point. Certainly when compared to where the bulk of their profits are now coming from.
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I understand what you are trying to say, but gaming is where they came from. I think they will continue to invest heavily in gaming R&D on improving both their hardware and software. Just this week they announced the release of DLSS 4.5. And they will continue to work with developers on games. I have no worries in that regard.

What I do believe is that they will push more of their high end silicon into AI hardware rather than gaming hardware. For gamers that means the 90/90ti class cards will be harder to get and a lot more expensive.
 
thing is Nvidia card prices will rise and be more unrealistic or artificially increased due to lack of availability.
they may still be doing R&D but theres a balance point were if crossed it will be unrealistic to continue as they dont have the eco system to support it.
 
LostCorpse said:
thing is Nvidia card prices will rise and be more unrealistic or artificially increased due to lack of availability.
they may still be doing R&D but theres a balance point were if crossed it will be unrealistic to continue as they dont have the eco system to support it.
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I was specifically addressing Vimes's concerns about buying a Nvidia card.

The things you are talking about effect AMD as well, but even more so, as they have less of an eco system to support the GPU side of things than Nvidia.

Neither company are going to be leaving desktop gaming anytime soon.
 
melmac said:
I understand what you are trying to say, but gaming is where they came from. I think they will continue to invest heavily in gaming R&D on improving both their hardware and software. Just this week they announced the release of DLSS 4.5. And they will continue to work with developers on games. I have no worries in that regard.

What I do believe is that they will push more of their high end silicon into AI hardware rather than gaming hardware. For gamers that means the 90/90ti class cards will be harder to get and a lot more expensive.
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Indeed. I have little doubt that Nvidia will continue to have a strong gaming presence, no concerns in that respect. it is just that emphasis of focus is shifting towards more lucrative sectors of the market they are now catering for. The upshot, no doubt will be reflective in pricing and, to a certain point, availability depending how long and deep the consumer dram shortages last and the more profitable markets remain.
I will find it interesting to see if Intel do come up with the ARC Battlemage B770 card, always good to have choices, perhaps more so if that pushes them towards the mid range game market.
 
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i agree neither are leaving any time soon.
but i can see AMD gaining ground as Nvidia re-focus their attention else were.

i think its probably better to say there wont really be a top end gaming card for a while. just a price war on mid tiar which is were the majority of the market will be
there will be people willing to spend 5k on a top of the range hard to get graphics card but those will be far and few.
even 2k graphics cards are hard to justify for majority of people.

i see AMD loosing the server ground but gaining the gaming ground.
 
I had been looking a few weeks back, when my son was curious, looking again at general GPU pricing and they do seem to be on the rise. Over in the 9070 thread it was noted.......

Blimey! Just checked prices on GPUs. Paid £590 a couple months ago. Now £799.
The whole thing is becoming a joke.

That was for a ASrock Taichi 9070 xt
 
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Vimes said:
I had been looking a few weeks back, when my son was curious, looking again at general GPU pricing and they do seem to be on the rise. Over in the 9070 thread it was noted.......

Blimey! Just checked prices on GPUs. Paid £590 a couple months ago. Now £799.
The whole thing is becoming a joke.

That was for a ASrock Taichi 9070 xt
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If you are buying, I would buy as soon as possible. I think prices are going to continue to rise for the immediate future. And once retailers get rid of the stock they bought before the price rises, there will be few, if any, bargains to be had!!
 
melmac said:
If you are buying, I would buy as soon as possible. I think prices are going to continue to rise for the immediate future. And once retailers get rid of the stock they bought before the price rises, there will be few, if any, bargains to be had!!
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Thanks, on this occasion it is down to our Son, we will be visiting him this week. As much as I explain the potentials of what is happening, he will need to make his own mind up on what he wishes to do.

Sadly, I do not see this situation becoming any easier. At least you are good, with your own 9070XT :)
 
jake000 said:
Big thread...

How is AMD with VR? At some point my son will need an upgrade and I'm leaning towards AMD more.

Thank you :)
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Here is my reply to Vimes, He had the same question.

melmac said:
I didn't, I kept the 9070XT. The prices of the 9070XT dropped and I would have lost out too much money both ways to switch.

AMD have their versions of DLSS and Frame Gen. AMD's FSR 4(DLSS), is really good. And they just released their equivalent of frame gen last month with Redstone drivers, it's still a work in progress though. The Nvidia options are better, they are a little faster and have a little better image quality overall, but would you notice the differences?

The biggest difference between the 5070Ti and the 9070XT is Ray Tracing/Path Tracing. Nvidia's cards still lead in that department. The more Ray Traced/Path Traced a game is the bigger the difference in performance between the cards.

For VR, there is no real difference. Some headset manufacturers are slow to release drivers that work with AMD cards. But that's improving. And, I mentioned to you already, the other thing to consider is the games you play. If you play a lot of games with VR mods, like Skyrim VR, Fallout VR etc. etc. Then consider getting a card from Nvidia. It's just easier and have better performance.

Now are all these games playable? They are, I have a lot of hours in these games on the 9070XT and haven't regretted my purchase at all.

My advice, however, would be this. If the 5070 TI and the 9070XT are the at a very similar price, I would buy the 5070Ti. If there is a big price difference, you will have to decide how much those features above are worth to you.

Luckily, it's a win win situation really. There are no bad options. I think you will be happy with either card. :)
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If you have any further questions, just ask.
 
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