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AMD 960T Ethical Issue

Datass

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Hey,

So I'm in town for an upgrade and I've decided to plump for a 960T as it feels like a really good deal for the price. I'm going to try my 'silicon lottery' luck with unlocking and OC'in to try get the most out of it which has led me to a conundrum.

If I was to buy a 960T on-line and it turned out to be a pretty rubbish chip with regards to OC'in and I was unable to unlock the cores I could, in principle, return the proccy within 7 days no questions asked under the consumer rights act, albeit I'll still have to pay postage costs.

So this is where my morals come into play - Could I do this a few times until I get a decent enough chip? I'm not aiming to get a massive OC or anything, Just a moderately good OC with all 6 cores. I understand this not exactly the most ethical thing to do, but I can't really see anyone losing out a great deal.

So my questions are;
Has anyone done this before?
What's the general consensus on this?
Is there a system in place to prevent this?
Will they be able to tell it's been used in a computer?
Is it worth it? (ethics aside)

Would love to get some opinions on this.

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Datass said:
Hey,

So I'm in town for an upgrade and I've decided to plump for a 960T as it feels like a really good deal for the price. I'm going to try my 'silicon lottery' luck with unlocking and OC'in to try get the most out of it which has led me to a conundrum.

If I was to buy a 960T on-line and it turned out to be a pretty rubbish chip with regards to OC'in and I was unable to unlock the cores I could, in principle, return the proccy within 7 days no questions asked under the consumer rights act, albeit I'll still have to pay postage costs.

So this is where my morals come into play - Could I do this a few times until I get a decent enough chip? I'm not aiming to get a massive OC or anything, Just a moderately good OC with all 6 cores. I understand this not exactly the most ethical thing to do, but I can't really see anyone losing out a great deal.

So my questions are;
Has anyone done this before?
What's the general consensus on this?
Is there a system in place to prevent this?
Will they be able to tell it's been used in a computer?
Is it worth it? (ethics aside)

Would love to get some opinions on this.

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Well, personally i wouldn't do it (more laazyness than anything) but in all likely hood you wouldnt need to. Mine unlocked to x6 and OC'd to 3.9 no worries, although tbh i only run it at 3.4 for 24/7 use...
 
If you have to pay postage costs then it's pretty pointless doing it more than once, you may as well have paid the extra for a proper hex core, plus it could take a week for them to refund you. Ethics aside I still wouldn't say it's worth it. Plus it's not guaranteed to work, could end up with a worse chip than you originally bought.

Also if it's been used they don't have to refund you IIRC, which they may be able to tell depending on how well it's packaged and how well you clean it.

So basically either buy a proper hex or accept that your buying a quad, if it unlocks then great but don't buy it on the basis that it will unlock.
 
go for the hex core they are cheap enough now you can pick up the Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6100 Black Edition 3.30Ghz for £119.99 inc VAT i cant see the point in buying it then if not liking it sending it back especially if you have to pay postage on it as well you could and you could try the phenom 2 x6 as well which you can pick up for around the same price
 
ng93 said:
Also if it's been used they don't have to refund you IIRC, which they may be able to tell depending on how well it's packaged and how well you clean it.
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Read up on the DSR mate :)

Thinkt eh only thing it doesnt apply to is things with serial codes like software and the likes.
 
In truth it would be nice if intel or amd only shipped good clocker's but if they did why would people bother buying the more expensive products?
 
im sure retail shops are aware of the people who frequently buy cpu`s (or vid cards) and when return them under DSR


just buy an X6 ;)
 
I tried my luck on a 960T
Went from the "cough athlon cough" phenom 2 x4 840 so it was a bit of a gamble for me.

Mine went in and unlocked to a 6 core straight away, happy days. Not tried OC yet and for the time being i probably wont.

Turbo boost it hits 3.4 which is holding its own atm for me
 
I bought an 820X3 when the unlocking trick first came out ~2 years ago. Mine didn't unlock (well could get 4 cores but totally unstable) but as I'd only seen that as a possible bonus that didn't matter - meanwhile the 3 cores oc-ed from 2.8GHz to 3.5GHz so I wasn't complaining.

As it looks like the AM2/AM3 cpus are on the way out (my mboard won't take AM3+ and as I'm still on DDR2 would need RAM as well as mboard if changed to new socket) then I'm considering whether its worth moving to a 960T (may not be a huge step faster but will also allow me to transfer X3 to another machine to replace a slow x2 in that!) - again will try to unlock extra coresw but that would be a bonus. Also, from what I've read having unlocked cores may limit oc-ing and/or the turbo mode feature so may not be beneficial unless you really have apps that exploit 6 cores
 
Datass said:
Hey,

So I'm in town for an upgrade and I've decided to plump for a 960T as it feels like a really good deal for the price. I'm going to try my 'silicon lottery' luck with unlocking and OC'in to try get the most out of it which has led me to a conundrum.

If I was to buy a 960T on-line and it turned out to be a pretty rubbish chip with regards to OC'in and I was unable to unlock the cores I could, in principle, return the proccy within 7 days no questions asked under the consumer rights act, albeit I'll still have to pay postage costs.

So this is where my morals come into play - Could I do this a few times until I get a decent enough chip? I'm not aiming to get a massive OC or anything, Just a moderately good OC with all 6 cores. I understand this not exactly the most ethical thing to do, but I can't really see anyone losing out a great deal.

So my questions are;
Has anyone done this before?
What's the general consensus on this?
Is there a system in place to prevent this?
Will they be able to tell it's been used in a computer?
Is it worth it? (ethics aside)

Would love to get some opinions on this.

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OP I have a question for you..

How is this an "ethical" issue? I am confused :D
 
littlepuppy said:
OP I have a question for you..

How is this an "ethical" issue? I am confused :D
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this,

moral dilemma maybe, but my ethical well being is not tarnished in any way :D

as for RMA and good parts, or ans RMA on a destroyed overclocked piece, is a no go in my book.

you pay, they give you the goods, if they work as stated then everythintg else is a bonus.

you just got to honour it
 
Well as a shop owner i might have a slightly different opinion on this. You say no one will lose out a great deal? So the shop owner has to take back the return, issue you a refund and then either try to resell a chip that has already been used and packaging opened and seals broken. Therefore not a new product and one which will have to be discounted to be sold on..multiply that by a few times and the shop owner/business will lose out. Not every business can afford to have people take the **** continually just to save them a few quid.
 
hmmm , to be a thieving scumbag or not ?

It would be a difficult question if you are lacking in any morals , most normal people
would say no.

Personally I would just pay for a decent hex and stop trying to rip people off (karma can be a biatch)
 
pretty scummy OP.
i remember reading about people doing this when the 990X first came out and people were looking for golden chips. Intel said they could tell if a chip had been OCd before being returned.
 
Tea_Bag said:
pretty scummy OP.
i remember reading about people doing this when the 990X first came out and people were looking for golden chips. Intel said they could tell if a chip had been OCd before being returned.
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Quite a difference in the price though.
 
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