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Hello!

I recently built my first build, here are the specs;


CPU: AMD FX-4170 4.2ghz AM3+
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-319-AM

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional AMD 990FX
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-071-AK

Case: NZXT Phantom Enthusiast USB3.0 Full Tower Case - Red/White
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-027-NX

Graphics Card: Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II TOP 2048MB
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-279-AS

RAM: Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB (2x4GB)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-052-PA

Cooling: Corsair Hydro H80
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-008-CS

Fans to replace loud H80 ones: Scythe Gentle Typhoon
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-030-SY

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-257-SE

PSU: Xigmatek Centauro 800W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-048-XG

Optical Drive: OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG
 
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Future Mods in order of predicted completion;

4-1 Cold Cathodes - Red Removed due to messy wires.

Side Panel Window Fan now on side panel, now running SLI so a window would heat things up.

Monitor to replace TV (TV is great for gaming, just terrible for everything else...) X2

Custom made corner desk (When we move our bed to another room) - Designed - Ikea'd

Added a second 560 Ti 2GB for SLI

Add another monitor

Upgrade to next generation of AM3+ (Piledriver when released) Ordered a FX-8350 and arriving 05/04/13

Another 8gb Ram for virtual Machines

Custom Watercooling Loop

Add a third monitor

Key:

Done

In-progress

Soon to be

Far Off
 
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Just realised something... I think the OcUK Build Logs is for staff only... I originally thought it was there for builds using parts from OcUK. I actually thought the OcUK Build Logs Thread List was new as I hadn't noticed it before and it only has a few Threads. Just checked the dates on those threads... not good.

Correct me if I'm wrong but did I screw up big time?
 
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Actually in his other thread we had tonnes of people tried to convince him that when spending like £900+ and still only a FX-4100 build something is seriously wrong (i.e. more money on less important things), and people even quoted he can get a i5 3570K for similar cost. But the OP stubbornly went ahead...and to put more salt of the wound, he's paying for the parts on finance...

What's done is done, can't turn back time now...I genuinely wishes OP good luck with his gaming (and hope that the main games he plays don't use low number of threads and ain't CPU demanding like mmos for example).

I've seen my friend's i3 2120 slightly bottlenecking his GTX560Ti when playing on BF3 64 players servers on high settings (meaning less GPU dependent), and at times the GPU usage drops to around 80%, and the i3 2120 is actually quite a bit faster than the FX4100 (and no slower than a overclocked FX4100) gaming performance wise.

A £900 FX-4100 build would be weak, A £900 FX-4170 build is much better. I could overclock the FX-4170 much higher than the FX-4100 even though the chips are almost the same. The FX-4170 is a chip that managed to pass higher tests, meaning overclocking it to 5Ghz should be easy, but an FX-4100 would struggle to be stable at 4.6Ghz.

I know the chip names probably confuse you, all the Intel one confuse the hell out of me too.

FX-4100 = 3.6Ghz
FX-4170 = 4.2Ghz

My FX-4170 is currently running at 4.6Ghz, I could go higher but the heat doesn't justify the OC.
 
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Corsair C70 Vengeance Case
AMD Zosma 960T unlocked to 6 core @ 4ghz
ASUS Crosshair V Formula / Thunderbolt
EVGA 580SC
8GB Vengeance LP RAM
WC loop
128gb Sandisk Extreme SSD
1Tb Seagate
640gb WD Caviar Black
500gb Hitatchi
loads of prolimatech red vortex's 120 + 140's
Akasa Apaches
24inch Benq
Ozone Strike
Sennheiser 320 headset

So yeah.....we can all spend a fair bit on an AMD rig. I dunno whether to go Piledriver or just all out on an Intel rig...hmm hmm hmm.

What kind of temps are you getting oliver? I'm doing 4ghz @ 44c (will do 24hr prime95 test tomorrow, was stable for the 2 hours I had). Bulldozers temps are a bit different tho......so.............

Hello, I am getting 61'C Prime95 for 8 hours @ 4.6Ghz. Note this is with the Corsair H80, I never used the standard cooler, I opened it and just laughed at the quality. The bracket did not seem stable at all. One of the reasons if got a H80 with the build :)

Im reapplying thermal paste this weekend. I suppose i was excited before and didn't do a good enough job. The H80 comes with some on but I put a little of another brand on the CPU. I applied it rather badly, so im sure I can get an extra 4-5'c cooler on load :)
 
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Heh that's what I read. Apply it all for double the cooling powah!

At the time I was using a guide just to make sure I did not miss anything. After reading on here I realized. My temps are not bad at all. 61'C Prime 95 for an entire afternoon. constantly fluxuated between 60-61'C so im in no rush to take it apart and redo, but i have time this weekend so ill get it done then :)
 
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Update!

Now have;
Logitech G500 Mouse
Logitech G110 Keyboard
Logitech Z323 2.1 Speakers
Logitech G35 7.1 (Virtual) Headset
NVidia GT430 (PhysX)
Razer Goliuthus Extended Gaming Surface
HD3000 Webcam
Additional HDD's
TP-Link 450Mbps Wireless N Dual Band PCI Express Adapter
 
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I take it you have the 560ti overclocked to over 1000? If not..WHY NOT???!!! :)

I did have when running just one only for about 2 weeks, then bought a second and had to reduce to 925Mhz as they get toasty. My top card is an ASUS DCU2, where as my bottom one is a Point Of View with a shoddy cooler and non-reference PCB. The bottom one is sealed though so it vents most heat out of the bracket exhaust gap, where as the ASUS one vents everywhere.

As the ASUS has the better cooler, its on top.

While on Furmark they both hit 88'c, the POV cards hits this first, even though its below.

I run them at;

Clock: 925Mhz
Memory: 2200Mhz
Voltage: 1.025v
Custom fan profile where 100% kicks in at 60'c but progressively before that.

I also have my 200mm NZXT Side fan on 100% (Near silent anyway) blowing on both cards, with the ASUS one receiving more air as its basically centered to the fan.

I could run 950mhz with less than 1v on either card singly, just in SLI it needs more for stability.
 
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Nice mate. Surely it makes sense, that the card with better cooling, be put under the one with bad cooling ?

The one with worse cooling has a blower design cooler, so the hot air can only leave the card through the expansion bracket, meaning it does not disperse any of its hot air into the case. The card with the better cooler does not have a blower design cooler, so its hot air goes straight in to the case and because it is hot, it rises.

If the blower card was on top, it would suck in all of the hot air from the other card.

Ill do a drawing as i'm at work!
 
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