AMD Bulldozer Finally!

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:43

Final8y's picture said:
ABSOLUT IDIOT

Why did I read that guy's comments in the FPS Russia dude's voice?

As always, have nice day.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:43

Helios1234 said:
The slides aren't fake.

If they are not fake they they are a lie.

There is no way that Metro will get the highest FPS of those game benched and there is no way that it would not be GPU bottlenecked and give at least the same results on both CPUs.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:45

randal24 said:
Why did I read that guy's comments in the FPS Russia dude's voice?

As always, have nice day.

Don't edit my comments and put words onto my mouth that i would not use to call someone on this forum.

Helios1234 · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:48

Why not just wait for independent tests rather than relying on those slides to make judgements...

The only things those slides seem to have done is raise more questions with some people over analysing everything as always.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:53

Helios1234 said:
Why not just wait for independent tests rather than relying on those slides to make judgements...

The only things those slides seem to have done is raise more questions with some people over analysing everything as always.

Well that's all well and good but your saying that they are the real deal.
But if they are real it worse than if they were fake because they way everything was done is a joke.

I know its there job to make things look good, but its rigged way to much.

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:54

Final8y said:
Don't edit my comments and put words onto my mouth that i would not use to call someone on this forum.

I'm sorry, was that directed at me? If so, wind your neck in. Meant nothing by it.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 12:56

randal24 said:
I'm sorry, was that directed at me? If so, wind your neck in. Meant nothing by it.

You can re-edit it then.

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:00

Final8y said:
You can re-edit it then.

What the hell are you talking about?

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:03

These latest slides don't make me feel any different about my earlier conclusion. I feel the most likely explanation is that GF missed AMD's clock target by ~25% or so, while keeping it within existing TDP envelopes. Obviously these chips can clock WAY higher (with enough cooling). And this is an architecture that is designed for clocks, yet the stock clocks aren't even any higher than their current arch.

The upshot is that we may get some really high clocking chips for cheap. AMD has to stay within TDP limits to satisfy partners, but we don't. So the real battle will be which chips perform the best at the average max overclocks. If SB tops out around 4.5-5GHz and BD tops out around 5.5-6Ghz on high end water I'll have to see how they both bench in my apps (3d deconvolution and volume rendering, microscopic digital holography, VMs, massive multitasking, etc) because I couldn't likely predict that outcome. The downside is that for the stock speeds to improve and thus AMD's market position and margins they may have to wait for the next process from GF - and that's quite the downer.

This is going to be the last time I post about BD until after release. I've said all I need to say.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...-info-fans-!&p=4957376&viewfull=1#post4957376

Helios1234 · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:03

Final8y said:
Well that's all well and good but your saying that they are the real deal.
But if they are real it worse than if they were fake because they way everything was done is a joke.

I know its there job to make things look good, but its rigged way to much.

But that's exactly why I'd rather wait for proper reviews. No one can really tell if the benchmarks were rigged to favour their setups or not and no one will be able to find out either.

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:05

And that has what to do with my observation that the poor English in there read as Russian, in particular to me as the guy from the FPS Russia videos?

Yes, some posts are as lighthearted as they seem and not always thinly veiled fanboy attacks.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:07

randal24 said:
What the hell are you talking about?

Take out the quote ABSOLUT IDIOT.

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:09

Final8y said:
Take out the quote ABSOLUT IDIOT.

Why? It's in the jpg? Admittedly I got the case wrong, and for that I apologise.

Skidder · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:09

Final8y said:
Take out the quote ABSOLUT IDIOT.

You appear to have misunderstood something and are having a one sided argument with someone who did nothing to offend you. Why don't you untwist your knickers and calm down.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:15

Skidder said:
You appear to have misunderstood something and are having a one sided argument with someone who did nothing to offend you. Why don't you untwist your knickers and calm down.

I understand what he was doing.
But it still looks as if i said it, and what happens if it gets cross posted without the context of the pictures and everything else.
There are words i just don't like using and i don't want to find myself having to explain myself.

Skidder · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:16

Final8y said:
I understand what he was doing.
But it still looks as if i said it, and what happens if it gets cross posted.

I don't know, the world ends?

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:21

Skidder said:
I don't know, the world ends?

Your morals are your own.

Skidder · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:23

Final8y said:
Your morals are your own.

What? Presume you are having a bad day or something. You are coming across as extremely strange. I have no idea how you presume to judge my morality, or why you feel this thread or the quote you are so perturbed by could offer a view into your own.

Final8y · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:24

Skidder said:
What?

Predicables.

randal · 25 Sep 2011 at 13:35

Final8y said:
I understand what he was doing.
But it still looks as if i said it, and what happens if it gets cross posted without the context of the pictures and everything else.
There are words i just don't like using and i don't want to find myself having to explain myself.

There you go, post edited. Just in case someone else misreads the post.