AMD Dragon Platform

mythrandyr

mythrandyr

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hi guys,

sorry if i have posted in the worng thread but i have a question regarding the AMD dragon platform. The question really is, is it worth considering over intel?

I can't currently afford the I7 technology which is what i really want but i already have an Intel Core 2 Duo E8500, Asus P5Q3 Wifi Deluxe Motherboard and 4Ghz Corsair 1333Mhz memory.

What i was thinking of buying is an AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 810, Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P and sticking with my current memory and the Asus 512MB 4870 graphics card that i currently have (upgrading to an X2 later in the year, more or less making crossfire redundant).

By my calculations that will make up an AMD Dragon Platform but what i am unsure about is wether or not i am upgrading over what i currently have or inadvertaintly downgrading? computers don't seem as clear cut nowadays as they did a decade ago, Or would it depend more on what i intend to do since it seems that the Dragon Platform seems to enhance system performance in regards solely to gaming.

I would buy a Q9550 but for some reason it just does'nt feel worth while over the processor that i already have for the price that it costs.

cheers,


Myth.
 
thats a good price for ddr3 but its still £156 overall dearer than a top end AM3 Dragon setup. I intend to keep hold of my memory though, only replaced it two weeks ago (TW3X4G1333C9DHX), cost £105 (after postage) for 4GB which i don't think is too bad considering its top end branded stuff, and the problem with that processor is that its on weekly offer and its OEM meaning that you'd still have to buy a cooler for it but if the cash is there to spare thats not a bad deal at all.
 
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thats a good price for ddr3 but its still £156 overall dearer than a top end AM3 Dragon setup. I intend to keep hold of my memory though, only replaced it two weeks ago (TW3X4G1333C9DHX), cost £105 (after postage) for 4GB which i don't think is too bad considering its top end branded stuff, and the problem with that processor is that its on weekly offer and its OEM meaning that you'd still have to buy a cooler for it but if the cash is there to spare thats not a bad deal at all.
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Should have bought it from me :D

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-154-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

:D

Same stuff but faster 1600MHz version and cheaper :D
 
ahh, their is a reason why i did'nt go for that memory lol. I wen't for the memory that i have under reccommendation for the board since the board seems to have compatibility issues running memory frequencies over 1333mhz, the screen goes into a BSD or locks up after several minutes. For some reason that board does'nt seem to like memory that is'nt on the qualified vendors list.
 
your going to end up spending £280 roughly on a new mb and am3 processer, its a good upgrade path but im not sure its much of an upgrade for you at the moment.

ive got a q6600 which is a decent enough quad core but ive yet to find many apps or games that use it to its full potential.

what do you use the pc for mostly?
 
If I had an Intel 8500 system, I'd want to upgrade to i7. Otherwise it's not much of an upgrade.
You'd want to get an AM3 Phenom II 945 and overclock it to make it worth the system overhaul IMO.
 
hi guys,

sorry bout the late reply, had a few problems to sort out over the last couple of days.
to answer you're question Mike, i usually use my platform for playing games on, video converting and general internet/document browsing but i am only playing games etc... for a few hours a day.

to be honest deathtyrant, i am inclined to agree the trouble is the price of getting I7 equipment, minimum of £400 for a basic set up where as the top end AM3 rig comes to around £250.

I must admint that i am torn between maximum performance and my personal budget
and i am not very impressed to be completely honest with the ammount of choice with the latest processors.
 
In old single threaded games your current dual core can actually achieve higher performance than generally lower clocked quad cores but those differences don't matter and in general even Phenom II can compete only against old generation Q6600 and crippled 45nm quads. Against full cache Yorkfields (like Q9550) Phenom II doesn't have much chances:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-phenom-ii-x4_7.html#sect0
 
yeah, i had read as much on the internet about the phenom 2's. I think in the end that it would be much more profitable to save up for the I7. I might not be able to make full use of the quad core technology yet but it's only a matter of time, I just hope that intel does'nt change sockets several months after i buy one.
 
I don't really see the problem with AMD Processors, A friend of mine has an i7, and his friend has a Phenom II, they both LAN together a fair amount, weekend binge every now and again and they both agreed that the Phenom II was a better performer in game, I'm not saying I agree, but I don't disagree either, I've heard a few people saying that the Q6600 is better for gaming than the i7 also.

Apparently the i7 is only really better for media, and rendering. If it's gaming you're using it for, then go with the AMD, if it's a media + video rendering PC, go for the i7.


These opinions are soley based on what I've been told by my 2 friends, not my personal opinion as I'm only running an AMD 6000+ at the moment ;D
 
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